Talking Cures
Because Pain illness and fatigue are destructive to our
Health, Wealth and Well being...

 Professor Stanley Milgram Psychology Experimenter 1933-1984. 

Experiment on Obedience... Link


Order Followers, Common Purpose,  New World Order


Open Society.

This is a presentation of many subjects thus is complex in its expression not to be read as a book and is not intended to be a statement of Fact.

More a consideration for further understanding of the well published facts that have been hidden in plain sight for far too long.


Nothing is what it Appears or Seems. 

It is now July 2017 and the evidence presented daily through the multitude of different opinion media outlets - many of the them from: Medical Science, Medical Researchers, Professors of Medicine and Doctors of all specialties, including: Patients, Patient Forums and Support Groups, illness support Charities relating to illness of all descriptions or diagnoses - is suggesting there is a Pandemic Failure of all treatments to address Mental illness or Biological illness or a combination of both.

As or more importantly the evidence appears to suggest. NO one EVER asks WHY.

One may term this as hiding from the truth as we all appear to do - when mysterious illness strikes.

This Paper is as much of what is reasonable to consider - as it is a matter of fact...

It is also combined information from Wikipedia and a number of professional sources.

Therefore it may contain a number of repeats - giving rise to different opinions and or conflicting information; perhaps therefore,

this particular medical experiment that may well lead to Understanding the many mysterious and distressing symptoms, thus demands such scrutiny.

Moreover, for a Medically qualified Person considered as. Anecdotal - a posh word for storytelling.

If in reading this paper my writing appears to be like a foreign language or even rambling.

Consider reading this paper - not as a book; take some time to comprehend the contents.

Where I would like to think and feel sure, it will make sense?

So often, we read or hear in detail. "What" (description or symptoms) of an illness - but rarely if ever does anyone take the time to truly explain...

"...WHY," or how it is really caused...

...this paper is designed to answer many of the questions - we are so often left with.

Where many times we have the questions and no answers - or the answers and not the questions.

If I have unwittingly left anything out or not satisfactorily answered, please email (address at the end of this page) and I will include it in this Paper at the earliest opportunity.

Please include item number or a copy and paste if possible - of the item that is not clear.

Did we not all struggle as a Child to learn many things we now through the experience of life - are now extremely competent with.

No apology if offered if discussions are repeated within this paper.

The understanding for this, nothing is more repeating than illness that is there every day of one's life and - despite treatments not only does not get better or have a satisfactory explanation/understanding...

Moreover often becomes worse, as Medical Science continues to write Scientifically Proven Papers about illness; in a confusing, repeating strange to many language/words or description in a manner that confuses everyone - and ultimately even themselves!

The first thing in the process of answering this is, for any one suffering, it is clear...

"...New understandings are required about illness..."

Far too many times I have heard from People. "If Doctors cannot Cure me how can a Person not medically qualified."‏

...making it appear the existing quality medical education is the same worldwide?..


If on reading this or any of Talking Cures understanding of illness one gets the impression...

....I am angry...

...then please believe it; because in 2017. People are not only not recovering from any illness - so often the treatments make them worse and no one knows why or it appears. Cares.


One could also be forgiven for thinking I am against:

1. Doctors.

2. The Medical Profession.

3. Medical Scientists.

4. Medical Researchers.

5. Alternative Medicine.

6. Complimentary medicine.

7. Religion.

The reality is I am a staunch supporter of any Person or Institution that helps People through tough emotional and physical concerns.

I am I confess most seriously against Bad Medical Science that has never once in real terms demonstrated the cause is truly known of any illness and as a result created an absolute cure...

= more illness and no more medications.

From Talking Cures point of view and therapeutic practice - names of illness especially Medically Diagnosed recognised and Scientifically proven, are of no real value in the understanding and treatment of any illness - the only Name we should use or symptom we may label is...

"A Person is unable to achieve a Healthy and satisfactory lifestyle...”

...Or never allowed to become the Person they should have been...

Thus requires. “Specialised assistance,” in order to make sense of the presenting symptoms, the cause and reason for them - enabling automatic resolution via the Persons own immune systems and Body replication process - referred to as, the Entire Body Chemistry. 

...Surely if a Person cannot be in control of self-repair when can they be in control!

To a trained Medical Mind these questions and answer updates may well appear or feel patronising - it is hoped not, as their structure is at the very. "Heart" of the success of Talking Cures as a therapeutic application and may well be a serious asset and improvement in Medical Treatment outcome success.

In order to fully appreciate this, it is helpful to consider and accept;

All of the information as to why a Person became ill in the first place and as a consequence - all of the information required for them to automatically create immune response repair is - not only contained within the confines of their Mind - it is the only information required to bring about the required Automatic Cure using their own immune systems and Body replication processes. As designed by the Mind and Body.

By creating very cleverly constructed questions - Knowing the Person is able to answer them with their own knowledge of themselves of which they are a Master and if they are unable to with my interpretations, accepted as re-education of their own information, that continues/completes on an ongoing bases; the process either returning to well-health or well-health for the very first time in their lives.

Based on the secure knowledge. "The only Person with the Integrity and Wisdom to fully Understand their illness and its cause - is the Person themselves."

There are most serious considerations as to why this process as with all illness treatment interventions - appears not to succeed...

...when the Protection created in response to early Childhood Emotional and or Physical traumas is so great the Person is unable to see the Protection and therefore unable to lower the Protection - allowing a Person to observe in a safe therapeutic environment the cause and consequences of such Protection, is the only safe way to resolve illness.

And. As a result, to gently - if one dare uses such words, lower the Protection, which will allow an immune response and an automatic alteration in ones thinking process, leading to a natural life - with comfort of Mind and Body.


These explanations are from a collection of Scientifically Proven papers in the public domain and discussion forums and are in a Question and Answer forum style.

It is important to accept I am both the Questioner, on behalf of interested Person's - as well as the Person supplying the Answers, or Responding thus in many ways, my own best critic.

Leaving one to choose the Questions and Answers that are important for a better or individual understanding of this seemingly mysterious illness.

Furthermore it is imperative one recognises; I have no medical qualifications to make such assertions as contained within my answers.

This should leave one in no doubt - it is only written because the entire medical profession since its creation, have never once produced a cure for any illness.

A life time of medication - is not to be considered a cure, only management of an ever changing and most times ever growing list of symptoms and medications.


Question. 1. Given the understanding you have no medical qualifications - are you able to explain how you can present this information regarding perhaps an illness you have no real prior knowledge of; in the way that you seem very able and comfortable with?

Answer. 1. Good question and thank you.

A. First may we understand it is the ability to work - using only the Persons Mind, with as many and constantly changing set of symptoms a Person is able to present; is at the very foundation of Talking Cures.

B. My understanding and acceptance - everyone in the Medical Profession is doing the very best they are able with Management techniques, yet fail to truly comprehend the enormity of the constantly repeated statement. "Of the 100,000 illness recognised and diagnosed," still in mid 2017 there is not one definitive cure for any illness.

C. Thus I start from a piece of information where a Person - say on Facebook or LinkedIn posts a question about an illness or from a Television or big screen Film I collect from the available sources, as much information as I am able, regarding the latest information known about the illness.

D. I then create a new web page and copy and past the information into the page.

E. From here I start the edit process of this information - yet do not attempt to understand it, in much the same way a Person with the illness may in pursuit of answers and questions.

F. Part of the edit process is to convert words that appear are used only to confuse - by research many medical publications or dictionaries, into a readable format, by providing the meaning of the word. This sometimes proves to be quite a time consuming task.

G. I then go through every word and edit out the grammatical parts that I feel could read better IE. Don't = do not. Doesn't = does not or isn't = is not and at the same time remove most reference to the First Parson. "You," then apply reference numbers to each sentence as well as colour highlights of information I feel deserves such treatment.

H. Finely - once the page is in a presentable format. I then start to comprehend the enormity of the message and make responses and conclusions as required, ending with why Talking Cures feels or has proven if only to my own satisfaction, how the illness is caused.

I. Once the creation process is complete I use a number of ways to spell check the entire document - often confused by different ways of spelling the word from country to country.

J. Some forty to sixty hours later, or more depending on the amount of information - having read the document more times than I am able to count. having finely checked for best level of continuity. I take the decision it is ready to publish free of any sign up - no collection of saleable contact information or fees for all to use at their desire, or discretion.

1. After all of this there are still times when an error jumps out at me.

2. Usually at this time with a final read/edit - I am reminded; I have no Medical Qualifications and often breath a sigh of relief and work to these principles...

Talking Cures Standards & Priorities


Section. 1.

Experiment on Obedience, Order Followers, Common Purpose,  New World Order


Open Society. Explored Explained Understood?

Courtesy of Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia:

This article is about making 2017 sense of this Scientifically evaluated Psychological Process, using perhaps for the first time in history...


Regarding Person's Following instructions from significant Person - thus Obedient to the  degree of demonstrating with many uncomfortable emotional responses with little or no due regards or informed knowledge as to the outcome of such experiments.


Section. 2.

Question. 1. This is rather a strange subject for you  to write about as Psychological Intellectual Testing demonstrated by Professor Stanley Milgram - as it not within your study and therapeutic practice remit?

Answer. 1...

A. This it appears is true. However following a Television Film my interest thus scientific inquiry was alerted into asking the question...

B. "...What if any was or has been the professors true driving force behind the study and the impact on the modern treatment of Mental conditions.

C. Moreover - did this process hinder; rather than improve the understanding of Mental illness and its treatments.

Question. 2.  "Do you have previous knowledge of Professor Stanley Milgram and his work?

Answer. 2.  Directly I have no previous knowledge relating to. "Experiment on Obedience."

Question. 3. Are you saying just out of the Television Film this debate has been created?

Answer. 3...

A. Not quite what it did is to further the attention I have observed with United Kingdom and perhaps the rest of the worlds current disposition.  

B. Please accept I have slightly edited this information to ensure it reads in a timeline fashion and may not be precisely as online. 


The Discussion. 

Section 3.

Question. 1. Is there a suggestion or consideration, there is a. "Pandemic Failure of all treatments to address Mental illness or Biological illness or a combination of both - and this is the same all over the world?

Answer. 1. If one only takes the information from those countries that express to the Worlds Populations. "They have the Historical data as Proof." It does not take a Degree in History or even Psychology to demonstrate this is so.

Question. 2. So what countries are implicated?

Answer. 2...

Let us present them in Alphabetical order, we must also accept this list many not be comprehensive as. ALL Doctors in every country are obliged to work within the Scientific Data relating to any illness and how it should be treated or Symptom Managed. 

1. Australia.
2. Canada.
3. Israel.
4. Japan.
5. Scotland. 
6. United Kingdom. 
7. United States of America.

B. We must of course include the Researchers Papers that are cited as being Scientifically important.

C. This list - below, demonstrates the world wide league table - it is interesting to note the fifth column across. "Self Citations" that nearly equal the number of Papers written.

Question. 3. What does that suggest?

Answer. 3...

As the heading of the list below - suggests; the. "Data is not good."

B. As it appears there are far too many self congratulations for cited papers - yet without reading all of them I would be very comfortable to suggest. "Within the Abstract or Introduction there are sufficient words to render the paper not in the slightest scientific; if there is any suggestion the cause is not known and there are no known cures."  

Question. 4...

A. I know you would agree and indeed support our Doctors are doing the best often at the expense of their own Health to manage the multitude of ever changing symptoms a Person would present to them for treatment?

B. But what went wrong or is wrong - surely we cannot blame Charles Darwin and all of his pre-daters for this catastrophe of illness we appear to be in - clearly demonstrated more in the past year or two than in any similar time frame?

Answer. 4...

A. You are correct in your assertions - right from the beginning of time when a Person showed signs and symptoms of Dis-ease, there have been - as far as my little bit of experience is able to count in the true process of illness cause; there are but two People implicated.

B. A Childs Parents; although of course we must forgive them for not knowing what they were subjecting their Children too and how decades later the effects will show, yet never be connected.

C. In order to fully appreciate this it is helpful to consider we are all Children of Parents and mostly Parents of Children and the absence of a Person or couple creating Children; only confirms this Human protocol. "I will not allow my Children to grow up to suffer in the same manner as I. "Sadly they only suffer more and illness is a clear demonstration of this."


1. Now; if we allow ourselves to accept that Adam and Eve were indeed our originating Parents and this protocol existed.

2. Then when a Child was born one or both of the Parents would apply this protocol of life.

3. Leaving the Child to grow up in a constantly agitated state of Anxiety as a result of being Nurtured and Controlled by the Parents. - Thus the Child would and could only grow up as a Victim.

E. Time passes the population increases - no one concerns themselves everyone is directly related to Adam and Eve. That is not our concern. 


1.  Until one day a significant Person (s) - clearly a descendent; decided they had the knowledge to intervene in another's (Family Members) life and as a result improve the quality of their life.

2. Today we call them Doctors and Therapists backed by Medical Science.


1. Surely in the same manner as we forgave the Childs Parents - we must forgive any medical professional seeking to improve another's life, based on the collective of all other significant People that have seemingly improved the understanding of the Human Mind and Body.

2. Yet the outcome is as your questions 1, 3 and 4 suggests or requests an explanation of. Clearly demonstrating with Medical Science it is non existing or simply - is not working.

Question. 5...

A. May we collect the information; Parents cause illness, Child becomes a Victim and Professionals are seeking with non-existing science to improve a Person's Health; but failing to recognise, this is not only not so, they are often as not - causing later illnesses with the many reported side-effects of medications?

B. What then is the process and are we able to link this to modern times?

Answer. 5...

A. First it is helpful to accept - every Person seeking to improve another's life was doing so with good intent and thus discovered things relating to the Mind, Body and Emotions and sought with scientific inquiry to improve the knowledge.

B. As time passed and the new ideas; were, accepted, modified or dismissed - all People in the knowledge Chain were contributory to the information at the start of this page and no one Person or institutional Research Body ever discovered anything alone - thus all were and still are contributory to the modern day outcome and lack of success in curing any illness.

Question. 6.  Interesting appraisal of the process of Mankind - are we able in Modern Times to place as another contributory agent at least some responsibility of the modem day lack of success in the understanding the true cause of illness and as a result create cures?

Answer. 6...

A. Of course - the reality is there are so many contributors to modern Scientifically Proven Medicine one can only judge the value by the proven facts - there are more People in the world today than ever with Mental or Biological Illnesses, taking one or more medications to manage their symptoms and no one it appears ever fully recovers - even when taking into account the increase of the worlds Population.


1.  There is indeed one Person who carried out Psychological Tests way back in the early 1960's - submitting his results in 1963 which were published in 1974.     

2. Professor Stanley Milgram - Born August 15, 1933 – Died December 20, 1984, was an American social psychologist, best known for his controversial Experiment on Obedience conducted in the 1960s during his professorship at Yale University..

3. It is said Professor Milgram was influenced by the events of the Holocaust, especially the trial of Adolf Eichmann May 1961, in developing the experiment.

4. After earning a Ph.D. in social psychology from Harvard University, he taught at Yale, Harvard and then for most of his career as a Professor at the City University of New York Graduate Center, until he death in 1984.


1. His small-world experiment while at Harvard led researchers to analyze the degree of connectedness, including the six degrees of separation concept.

2. The small-world experiment comprised several experiments conducted by Stanley Milgram and other researchers examining the average path length for social networks of People in the United States.

3. The research was groundbreaking in that it suggested that Human society is a small-world - type network characterized by short path-lengths.

4. The experiments are often associated with the phrase "six degrees of separation," although Milgram did not use this term himself.


1. Later in his career, Milgram developed a technique for creating interactive hybrid social agents - Cyranoids, which has since been used to explore aspects of social and self-perception.

2. He is widely regarded as one of the most important figures in the history of social psychology. A Review of General Psychology survey, published in 2002, ranked Milgram as the 46th-most-cited psychologist of the 20th century.


A. Whilst is necessary to accept the eloquent finding of Milgram's Peers last updated in 2002 in citing his work - item E. 2.

B. Should one not ask Item B. 3. "WHY;" as in 1963 at the age of just 30 Milgram was so influenced by the events of the Holocaust and Adolf Eichmann's trial in 1961.

C. Should one not also question just what was the influence on his research into an "Experiment of Obedience." The Holocaust and Eichmann's trial really had. 

D. Moreover, based on this input are we able to make a satisfactory Critique and Scientific Argument to support or improve. Milgram's findings.

E. Should not Scientific Inquiry be put on high alert with suggestions as this. "Cyranoids are People who do not speak thoughts originating in their own central nervous system: Rather, the words they speak originate in the Mind of another Person who transmits these words to the Cyranoid by radio transmission."

Question. 7. Surely in the absence of data to suggest further research was undertaken by Milgram - there is the suggestion he either attached no importance to this; or found it way above his pay grade of understanding the simple as presented by Patients in favour of making it so Scientifically Complicated - no one understands?

Answer. 7...

A. Remember Milgram died in 1984 and a lot has happened in the Mental Health industry since then.

B. Although this abstract below from 2014 does appear to confirm the original belief of your - question. 


Milgram's Cyranoid Method: Experimenting With Hybrid Human Agents.


Section 4.

A. In two studies based on Stanley Milgram's original pilots, the first systematic examination of Cyranoids as social psychological research tools was undertaken.

B. A Cyranoid is created by cooperatively joining in real-time the Body of one Person with speech generated by another via Covert Speech Shadowing.

C. The resulting hybrid persona can subsequently interact with third parties face-to-face.

D. Attempts were made to show that naïve interlocutors perceive a Cyranoid to be a unified, autonomously communicating Person, evidence for a phenomenon Milgram termed the; "Cyranic illusion."

E. It was  also shown - that creating Cyranoids composed of contrasting identities; a Child speaking adult-generated words and vice versa can be used to study how stereotyping and Person perception are mediated by inner - dispositional vs. outer - physical identity.

F. The results establish the Cyranoid method as a unique means of obtaining experimental control over inner and outer identities within social interactions rich in mundane realism.


A.  Is this not suggesting - one can teach from Birth; a Child to be of the highest Academic educational standards, yet that very same Child can be taught and kept feeling and indeed being stupid. Clone and Zombie appear to fit equally as well. 

B. This is not an experiment in order to improve the understanding of Mental il health and treatments - although Domination appears to fit rather nicely; it is one of psychotic control and of no value to Mankind or Beast. 


Professor Stanley Milgram. 

Section 5.

Question. 7. Is there more to Milgram's life that would add to understanding of his thesis. If so how may we carry this out?

Answer. 7... 

A. There is ample information available including a Film and whilst we must accept there would have been a degree in Literary Expression in the writing and making of the film one cannot resist asking what questions were left unanswered, unasked and unanswerable - based on the current scientific data still requiring a Scientific Inquiry that puts these conundrums to rest.

B. Let us first explore the story of Milgram's Life and early death.   



Early and Personal life.

Section 6.

A. Milgram, who was Jewish, was born in 1933 in the Bronx in New York City, the son of Adele - née Israel and Samuel Milgram - 1902–1953, who had emigrated to the United States from Romania and Hungary respectively during World War I.

B. He was the second of three Children.

C. Milgram's family were affected by the Holocaust and after the war members of his family who had survived Nazi concentration camps and bore concentration camp tattoos, stayed with his family for a time.

D. He stated in his Bar Mitzvah speech was on the subject of the plight of the European Jews and the impact that World War II events would have on Jewish People around the world.

E. He said, upon becoming a man under Jewish law: "As I find happiness in joining the ranks of Israel, the knowledge of the tragic suffering of my fellow Jews, makes this an occasion to reflect upon the heritage of my People - which now becomes mine."

F. And confirmed his desire with - I shall try to understand my People and do my best to share the responsibilities which Ancient History has placed upon all of us."

G. later when writing to a friend from Childhood he said: "I should have been born into the German-speaking Jewish community of Prague in 1922 and died in a gas chamber some 20 years later.

H. And spent much of his life with the belief of; "How I came to be born in the Bronx Hospital, I will never quite understand."

I. Milgram married his wife, Alexandra, in a ceremony at the Brotherhood Synagogue in Greenwich Village in Manhattan on December 10, 1961 and they had two Children, Michele and Marc.

J. Milgram's interest in the Holocaust had its basis in what his biographer, Professor Thomas Blass, referred to as Milgram's; "lifelong identification with the Jewish People.."

K. Author Kirsten Fermaglich wrote that Milgram as an adult - had, "a personal conflict as a Jewish man who perceived himself both as an outsider, a victim of the Nazi destruction and as an insider, a scientist."

L. Alexandra stated that Milgram's Jewish identity led to his focus on the Holocaust and his Obedience-to-Authority research.

M. He shared this as well with Herbert Winer, one of his obedience study subjects, who noted after speaking to Milgram about the experiment that. "Milgram was very Jewish. I was Jewish. We talked about this. There was obviously a motive behind his apparently neutral research."

N. Milgram's Father; worked as a baker, providing a modest income for his family until his death in 1953 - upon which Stanley's Mother took over the bakery.

O. Milgram attended PS 77 and James Monroe High School in the Bronx - which he graduated from in three years and excelled academically and was a great leader among his peers.

P. By the time he was college age, his family had moved to nearby Queens..

Q. In 1954, Milgram received his bachelor's degree in political science from Queens College in New York, which he attended tuition-free.

R. He also studied at Brooklyn College, where he received A-grades in. "Psychology of Personality" and "An Eclectic Approach to Social Psychology."

S. He applied to a PhD. program in social psychology at Harvard University and was initially rejected due to an insufficient background in psychology - he had not taken any undergraduate courses in psychology at Queens College.

T. He was eventually accepted to Harvard in 1954 after first enrolling as a student in Harvard's Office of Special Students.


A. Perhaps one is able to question with the Integrity and Wisdom hindsight allows and with the information this section brings - as to Milgram's true intentions; although perhaps not with conscious or even malicious intentions.

B. Were these experiments truly to improve the understanding of the Human Brain and its multi factorial or ever changing ability and desires or something much more sinister. No one saw, nor was it the intention for the true intent to be observable.

C. What was the real motive -Item ;Q behind his receiving Tuition from Queens College free of fees.  


Professional life.

Section 7.

A. In 1960, Milgram received a Ph.D. in social psychology from Harvard.

B. He became an assistant professor at Yale in the fall of 1960.

C. He served as an assistant professor in the Department of Social Relations at Harvard from 1963 to 1966 on a three-year contract.

D. The contract was then extended for one additional year, but with the lower rank of a lecturer.

E. Most likely because of his controversial Obedience Experiment, Milgram was denied tenure at Harvard.

F. In 1967 he accepted an offer to become a tenured full professor at the City University of New York Graduate Center and he taught at City University until he died in 1984.

G. Milgram had a number of significant influencers, including psychologists Solomon Asch who it appeared majored on. "Conformity" and. Gordon Allport who was one of the first psychologists to focus on the study of personality.

Conclusion... .

A. If one takes the essence of this section can one deduce not so much as a boost into stardom with a philosophy designed to control; but. "WHY..."

B. 1960 PhD from Harvard, 1960 Assistant Professor at Yale then Harvard only to be rejected by Harvard as a result of his "controversial Obedience Experiment," yet have the support of Ash and Allport. Suggests to me this was a back-handed compliment to hide the real reason for his experiments.

C. Moreover when I hear the word. "Controversial." All I hear is. "We believe in what you are saying but are uncomfortable with the truth."

D. In this instance if one desires to make something bad appear or be accepted as good - then dismiss it or rubbish it.

E. Is that not reverse Psychology  a process that would have been well known to: Harvard. Yale. Asch and Allport.

F. And if it was not known - do they deserve the right to sell or promote themselves as the best.  



Section 8.

A. Milgram died on December 20, 1984, aged 51, of a Heart attack in New York City.

B. It was his fifth Heart attack.

C. He left behind a widow, Alexandra "Sasha" Milgram, a daughter, Michele Sara and a son, Marc Daniel.


A. Whilst it is of course; humanly important to feel for. Not only the Professor but his Family as well to lose such a brilliant Mind at such a tender young age.

B. But should that blind us to the reality of the questions he was asking going unanswered - clearly demonstrated by the Four Heart attacks he had and then the final fatal one that stole his life.

C. Or is there a deeper reality of his life's work that unwittingly he had become yet another victim of - that no one  is supposed to see through to the reality of.

D. "Someone that was at the cost of their own life. Obedient to the given orders of and Unknown Authority."   


Obedience to Authority.

Section 9.

A. In 1963, Milgram submitted the results of his obedience experiments in the article. "Behavioral Study of Obedience."

B. In the ensuing controversy, the American Psychological Association held up his application for membership for a year because of questions about the ethics of his work, but eventually did grant him full membership.

C. Ten years later, in 1974, Milgram published Obedience to Authority.

D. He won the AAAS Prize for Behavioral Science Research in 1964, mostly for his work on the. Social aspects of Obedience.

1. AAAS = American Association for the Advancement of Science -  is reputed to be. "The World's Largest General Scientific Society."

E. Inspired in part by the 1961 trial of Adolf Eichmann, his models were later also used to explain the 1968 My Lai Massacre - including authority training in the military, depersonalizing the "enemy," through racial and cultural differences, etc.

F. He produced a film depicting his experiments, which are considered classics of Social Psychology.

G. An article in American Psychologist sums up Milgram's obedience experiments:

1. In Milgram's basic paradigm, a subject walks into a laboratory believing that s/he is about to take part in a study of memory and learning.

2. After being assigned the role of a teacher, the subject is asked to teach word associations to a fellow subject - who in reality is a collaborator of the experimenter.

3. The teaching method, however, is unconventional - administering increasingly higher electric shocks to the learner.

4. Once the presumed shock level reaches a certain point, the subject is thrown into a conflict.

5. On the one hand, the strapped learner demands to be set free, he appears to suffer pain and going all the way may pose a risk to his health.

6. On the other hand, the experimenter, if asked, insists that the experiment is not as unhealthy as it appears to be and that the teacher must go on.

7. In sharp contrast to the expectations of professionals and laymen alike, some 65% of all subjects continue to administer shocks up to the very highest levels.

8. More recent tests of the experiment have found that it only works under certain conditions; in particular, when participants believe the results are necessary for - the "good of science."

9. According to Milgram, "the essence of obedience consists in the fact that a Person comes to view himself as the instrument for carrying out another Person's wishes and he therefore no longer sees himself as responsible for his actions.

10. Once this critical shift of viewpoint has occurred in the Person, all of the essential features of obedience follow." Thus, "the major problem for the subject is to recapture control of his own current - therefore having the greatest influence, processes. once he has committed them to the purposes of the experimenter."


A. Besides this hypothetical Agentic state, Milgram proposed the existence of other factors accounting for the subject's obedience: politeness, awkwardness of withdrawal, absorption in the technical aspects of the task, the tendency to attribute impersonal quality to forces that are essentially Human, a belief that the experiment served a desirable end, the sequential nature of the action and Anxiety.

B. Agentic. A social cognition theory proposed by Stanford University Psychologist Albert Bandura that views People as self-organizing, proactive, self-reflective a state most individuals can be easily triggered to enter and be comfortable in.

I. A competing explanation of Milgram's results invokes belief perseverance as the underlying factor.


1. What "People cannot be counted on is to realize - that a seemingly benevolent authority is in fact malevolent, even when they are faced with overwhelming evidence which suggests that this authority is indeed malevolent.

2. Benevolent - intending or showing goodwill; kindly; friendly

3. Malevolent - wishing evil or harm to another or others; showing ill will; ill-disposed; malicious: His failures made him malevolent toward those who otherwise disposed.

K. Hence, the underlying cause for the subjects' striking conduct - could well be conceptual and not the alleged; "capacity of man to abandon his humanity as he merges his unique personality into larger institutional structures."

L. Milgram's Obedience experiments came under severe attacks.

M. Some critics argued that the validity of these experiments hinged on the acting ability of the learner and experimenter and that most subjects probably sensed the unreality of the situation.

N. Others questioned the relevance of these artificial laboratory setting to the real world.

O. The most devastating criticisms involved the ethics of the basic experimental design.

P. Professor Milgram, for his part, felt that such misgivings were traceable to the unsavory nature of his results: "Underlying the criticism of the experiment," Milgram wrote, "is an alternative model of Human nature, one holding that when confronted with a choice between hurting others and complying with authority, normal People reject authority."


A. Is it possible when the American Psychological Association held up his application for membership for a year because of questions about the ethics of his work, but eventually did grant him full membership. They themselves bowed to the suppression of Orders given by those at the time unknown.

B. Once again I am obliged to observe; Medical Academia/Sciense is so ready to criticise and dismiss (Items K, L, M and N) new an innovative findings - whether one believes them or not is of no concern, for always there is a failure to observe a process that is still in existence today mid 2017 - the failure of Mental or Biological Medical Sciense to really prove its worth by having a secure understanding of the cause of all illness and at least some real cures - instead of a temporary remission.

C. Is it possible Milgram's - as intended by significant others, own belief in his experiments was undermined in a manner that appears totally contradictory to his earlier findings. as indicated in Item O. "normal People reject authority." or is the reality he was in actual fact - hiding the real reason for his experiments.

D. Is it possible Milgram's work was an adaptation of the earlier work of Ivan Pavlov and the legacy he left:-

1. The concept for which Pavlov is famous, is the, "conditioned reflex" - or in his own words the conditional reflex, he developed jointly with his assistant Ivan Filippovitch Tolochinov in 1901.

2. He had come to learn this concept of conditioned reflex when examining the rates of salivations among dogs.

3. Pavlov had learned that when a buzzer or metronome was sounded in subsequent time with food being presented to the dog in consecutive sequences, the dog would initially salivate when the food was presented.

4. The dog would later come to associate the sound with the presentation of the food and salivate upon the presentation of that stimulus.

5. Tolochinov, whose own term for the phenomenon had been "reflex at a distance," communicated the results at the Congress of Natural Sciences in Helsinki in 1903.

6. Later the same year Pavlov more fully explained the findings, at the 14th International Medical Congress in Madrid, where he read a paper titled. "The Experimental Psychology and Psychopathology of Animals.

E. Ivan Pavlov.

1. Ivan Petrovich Pavlov; 14 September 1849 – 27 February 1936 was a Russian Physiologist known primarily for his work in classical conditioning.

2. From his Childhood days Pavlov demonstrated intellectual curiosity along with an unusual energy which he referred to as, "the instinct for research."

3. Inspired by the progressive ideas which D. I. Pisarev, the most eminent of the Russian literary critics of the 1860s and I. M. Sechenov, the father of Russian physiology, were spreading, Pavlov abandoned his religious career and devoted his life to science.

4. In 1870 he enrolled in the physics and mathematics department at the University of Saint Petersburg in order to study natural science.

5. Pavlov won the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1904, becoming the first Russian Nobel laureate.

6. A Review of General Psychology survey, published in 2002, ranked Pavlov as the 24th most cited psychologist of the 20th century.

7. Pavlov's principles of classical conditioning have been found to operate across a variety of experimental and clinical settings, including educational classrooms.


Daniel Raver looks back:

Section 10.

A. Even though Milgram’s personal interests were diverse, his greatest contribution to psychology came through one set of experiments, but in that set he contributed monumentally.

B. He helped justify a science some dismiss as unimportant, contributed to the understanding of humanity and, even if by way of attacks against him, contributed to the consideration of the treatment of research participants.


A. Whilst Daniel Raver is mentioned in the Professor Stanly Milgram Wikipedia information with his comments above - one would without an exhaustive search of the entire history of Milgram knowing he died in 1984, find it difficult to identify anything Raver ; thus was of no interest to Wikipedia and others to maintain the information he proffers...

B. It appears Raver did not enjoy such attention by his own online contributions. As in terms of contribution - he could not be found.   


Small World Phenomenon.

Section 11.

A. The six degrees of separation concept originates from Milgram's 1967; "small world experiment," that tracked chains of acquaintances in the United States.

B. In the experiment, Milgram sent several packages to 160 random People living in Omaha, Nebraska, asking them to forward the package to a friend or acquaintance who they thought would bring the package closer to a set final individual, a stockbroker from Boston, Massachusetts.

C. Each "starter," received instructions to mail a folder via the U.S. Post Office to a recipient, but with some rules.

D. Starters could only mail the folder to someone they actually knew personally on a first-name basis.

E. When doing so, each starter instructed their recipient to mail the folder ahead to one of the latter's first-name acquaintances with the same instructions, with the hope that their acquaintance might by some chance know the target recipient.

F. Given that starters knew only the target recipient's name and address, they had a seemingly impossible task.

G. Milgram monitored the progress of each chain via returned, "tracer" postcards, which allowed him to track the progression of each letter.

H. Surprisingly, he found that the very first folder reached the target in just four days and took only two intermediate acquaintances.

I. Overall, Milgram reported that chains varied in length from two to ten intermediate acquaintances, with a median of five intermediate acquaintances.  i.e. six degrees of separation between the original sender and the destination recipient.

J. Milgram's, "six degrees" theory; has been severely criticized.

K. He did not follow up on many of the sent packages and as a result, scientists are unconvinced that there are merely; "six degrees" of separation.

L. Elizabeth DeVita-Raeburn has discussed potential problems with Milgram's experiment.

M. In 2008, a study by Microsoft showed that the average chain of contacts between users of its; '.NET Messenger Service.' Later called Microsoft Messenger service was 6.6 People.


1.  It is not so important that. Milgram's, "six degrees" theory;  was scientifically criticised and confirmed by author Elizabeth DeVita-Raeburn - surely the importance of criticising; is that one has a better or later viewpoint and yet when such times as I observe Medical Sciense criticising, they never, as in this instance arrive or deliver an improvement or even a replacement of the proffered hypothesis - guesswork.

2. Thus their Anxiety, being relieved for the time being are able to rest on their laurels of; "they are right and in this case Milgram was wrong - just because they say so."    


Lost letter experiment.

Section 12.

A. Milgram developed a technique, called the; "lost letter" experiment, for measuring how helpful People are to strangers who are not present and their attitudes toward various groups.

B. Several sealed and stamped letters are planted in public places, addressed to various entities, such as individuals, favorable organizations like medical research institutes and stigmatized organizations such as. "Friends of the Nazi Party."

C. Milgram found most of the letters addressed to individuals and favorable organizations were mailed, while most of those addressed to stigmatized organizations were not.

Conclusion. Item B one can consider a requirement to ask. "What were the real motives behind Milgram's Experiments and on whose instructions."


Anti-Social Behavior Experiment.

Section 13.

A. In 1970 -71, Milgram conducted experiments which attempted to find a correlation between media consumption - in this case, watching television and anti-social behavior.

B. The experiment presented the opportunity to steal money, donate to charity, or neither and tested whether the rate of each choice was influenced by watching similar actions in the ending of a specially crafted episode of the popular series Medical Center.


A.  Is it just possible all of Milgram's experiments are explained in this section.

B. Is it possible it was a Scientifically proven way of promoting anti social behaviour using the mass media.

C. Of course he could not really know the spreading of his unsavory or unwitting message would be enhanced with the creation and spread of the: Internet, Racism, Anti-Semitism and Multiculturalism. 


Revisiting Cyranoids.

Section 14.

A. In 1977 Milgram began piloting an experimental procedure that aimed to operationalize the mind-body fusion fantasy explored in the Edmond Rostand play Cyrano de Bergerac.

B. In the story, Cyrano supplies Christian with amorous prose so that they may jointly woo Roxane - each being incapable, given their respective physical and linguistic limitations, of doing so on their own.

C. Milgram trained speech shadowers to replicate in real-time spontaneous prose supplied by a remote "source;" by-way-of discreet radio transmission during face-to-face dialogue with naïve "interactants."

1. Shadower, tail - Type of follower; someone who travels behind or pursues another, a spy, a secret watcher; someone who secretly watches other People.

2. Interactants - a Person or thing that interacts.

D. In homage to Cyrano, he referred to the Hybrid Agent formed by combining the words of one individual with the body of another as a; "Cyranoid."

E. In his studies, interactants repeatedly failed to detect that their interlocutors were merely speech shadowing for third parties, implicitly and explicitly attributing to them communicative autonomy.

F. Milgram referred to this phenomenon as the; "Cyranic illusion."

G. This illusion held even in circumstances involving high disparity between Shadower and source, such as when he sourced for Child shadowers while being interviewed by panels of teachers - naïve to the deception, tasked with assessing each Child's intellectual abilities.

H. Milgram it is reported hoped that the cyranoid method could evolve into a useful means of interactively exploring phenomena related to social behavior and self-perception. e.g, racial, gender, age-based stereotyping and behavioral confirmation.

I. Though he continued to develop the methodology through 1984 - the year of his death, he never prepared a formal publication detailing his Cyranoid experiments.

J. In 2014, social psychologists at the London School of Economics, published the first replications of Milgram's original pilots.

K. Robb Mitchell has explored Cyranoids as an experiential learning tool within the classroom - having Children shadow for teachers during teaching exercises.

L. Cyranoids have also been used in installation art to explore social experiences whereby People encounter those familiar to them through the bodies of strangers.


A. Whilst Robb Mitchell is mentioned in the Professor Stanly Milgram Wikipedia information with his comments above - one would without an exhaustive search of the entire history of Milgram knowing he died in 1984, fit it difficult to find anything Mitchell wrote short of belonging to a select group and or fee based information; thus was of sufficient interest to Wikipedia and others to maintain the information he proffers...

B. Thus Robb Mitchell It appears did not enjoy such attention by his own online contributions. As in terms of contribution - he could not be found. 

C. Perhaps this extract from item A holds a clue; "the Mind-Body fusion fantasy."

D. Leaving one to question. Is this suggesting in 1960 scientific ways - thus repeating the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde theory - if you play with chemicals one will go mad or simply put Medial Sciense has investigated the Mind and Body connection and found it pure fantasy to suggest; the Mind has any influence in the creation and sustaining of any illness.

E. Item L suggests. Cyranoids have been used in art installations and that is where it should stay - for even if it were scientifically proven the process is correct; the Mind will, especially with any form of illness, never allow such Snake Oil meddling into its affairs. That is still not in the slightest understood by any form of modern Medical Sciense.

F. In addition. The Mind quicker than the speed of light will create for sometime in the future - illness that defies even more the collective of Modern Scientific understandings and in the meantime will be as highly active; as if the illness was clinically diagnosable.

G. Cyranoids best kept for the Science Fiction film set.


References in Media.

Section 15.

A. In 1975, CBS presented a made-for-television movie about obedience experiments, The Tenth Level, with William Shatner as Stephen Hunter, a Milgram-like scientist.

B. Milgram was a consultant for the film, though his personal life did not resemble that of the Shatner character.

C. In this film, incidents were portrayed that never occurred in the follow-up to the real-life experiment, including a subject's psychotic episode and the main character saying that he regretted the experiment.

D. When asked about the film, Milgram told one of his graduate students, Sharon Presley, that he was not happy with the film and told her that he did not want his name to be used in the credits.

E. In 1986, musician Peter Gabriel wrote a song called. "We do what we are told - Milgram's 37," referring mistakenly to the percentage of test subjects who refused to continue administering shocks.

F. Gabriel's intent was optimistic: not everyone was willing to obey authority and shock to the highest level.

G. The actual percentage was 35.

H. Quoted in an article in SPIN magazine in September, 1986:

I. At first this seems a very negative thing," says Gabriel, "but I was comforted that some had the strength to rebel and in the Solo version of the song, which I have been performing in concert since around 1980, the emphasis is shifted to the positive side.

J. Milgram 18 was reproduced to test the participants in a 2008 television special. "The Heist.."

K. Created by Derren Brown and Andy Nyman for British station Channel 4, the Milgram experiment helped determine which candidates were the most responsive to authority.

L. The four most responsive and psychologically sound candidates at the end of the show were indirectly given the opportunity to rob a - fake, armoured bank van.

M. In April 2008, the Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episode; "Authority," featured Robin Williams as a Milgram-like villain.

N. In March 2010, French television channel France 2 broadcast Jusqu'où va la télé, describing the results of a fake game show that they had run 80 times - each time independently and with a new contestant and audience.

O. The contestants received instructions to administer - what they thought would be near fatal electric shocks to another; "contestant" - really an actor, when that other contestant erred on memorized word-associations.

P. Encouraged by the show's host and by an unprimed studio audience, the vast majority followed instructions even as; the "victim" screamed.

Q. In 2010, luxury brand Enfants Perdus released a collection called. "Milgram," in which the designers drew themes and inspiration from the Milgram experiment.

R. The design team has referenced the discussions about the Human condition and the revelations of the Human condition in numerous interviews.

S. In 2015, an experimental biopic about Milgram called Experimenter was released, directed by Michael Almereyda. Peter Sarsgaard stars as Stanley Milgram.


A. Is it not interesting to note - of all the People in the world since Milgram's experiments with the notoriety of exposing the experiments for good bad or indifferent; it was Peter Gabriel's song. "We do what we are told - Milgram's 37."

B. Leading me to question. "Was there a deeper significance in the song or the singer/writer, one  might term as; an embedded - subliminal message. One of control we are supposed to act on without knowing or questioning why. 

1. Gabriel... Hebrew: Gavri'el "God is my strength," Biblical Greek: Gabriel; Amharic, Geez and Tigrinya: Arabic: or Jibra'il), in the Abrahamic religions, is an angel who typically serves as God's messenger.

2. In the Jewish scriptures, Gabriel appears to the prophet Daniel, to explain his visions - Daniel 8:15–26, 9:21–27. Gabriel the archangel is also a character in other ancient Jewish writings such as the Book of Enoch.

C. Did Milgram really understand just what his experiments were really about - or was he like all of us. A Victim of Obedience and the Media played; as instructed, their part in the elusion.  


Section 16.

Milgram's Experiment.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

A. The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Professor Stanley Milgram.

B. They measured the willingness of study participants, Men from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience; the experiment found, unexpectedly, that a very high proportion of People were prepared to obey, albeit unwillingly, even if apparently causing serious injury and distress.

C. Milgram first described his research in 1963 in an article published in the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology and later discussed his findings in greater depth in his 1974 book, Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.

D. The experiments began in July 1961, in the basement of Linsly-Chittenden Hall at Yale University, three months after the start of the trial of German Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem.


A. Milgram devised his psychological study to answer the popular question at that particular time: "Could it be that Eichmann and his million accomplices in the Holocaust were just following orders?

B. Could we call them all accomplices?

C. The experiments have been repeated many times in the following years with consistent results within differing societies, although not with the same percentages around the globe.


The Experiment.

Section 17.

A. Three individuals were involved: the one running the experiment, the subject of the experiment - a volunteer and a confederate pretending to be a volunteer.

B. These three People fill three distinct roles: the Experimenter - an authoritative role, the Teacher - a role intended to obey the orders of the Experimenter and the Learner - the recipient of stimulus from the Teacher.

C. The subject and the actor both drew slips of paper to determine their roles, but unknown to the subject, both slips said "teacher."

D. The actor would always claim to have drawn the slip that read; "learner," thus guaranteeing that the subject would always be the "teacher."

E. Next, the "teacher" and "learner," were taken into an adjacent room where the "learner," was strapped into what appeared to be an electric chair.

F. The experimenter told the participants this was to ensure that the "learner," would not escape.

G. The "teacher" and "learner," were then separated into different rooms where they could communicate but not see each other.

H. In one version of the experiment, the confederate was sure to mention to the participant that he had a heart condition.

I. At some point prior to the actual test, the "teacher," was given a sample electric shock from the electroshock generator in order to experience firsthand what the shock that the "learner" would supposedly, receive during the experiment - would feel like.

J. The "teacher," was then given a list of word pairs that he was to teach the learner.

K. The teacher began by reading the list of word pairs to the learner.

L. The teacher would then read the first word of each pair and read four possible answers.

M. The learner would press a button to indicate his response.

N. If the answer was incorrect, the teacher would administer a shock to the learner, with the voltage increasing in 15-volt increments for each wrong answer. If correct, the teacher would read the next word pair.

O. The subjects believed that for each wrong answer, the learner was receiving actual shocks.

P. In reality, there were no shocks.

Q. After the confederate was separated from the subject, the confederate set up a tape recorder integrated with the electroshock generator, which played prerecorded sounds for each shock level.

R. After a number of voltage-level increases, the actor started to bang on the wall that separated him from the subject. After several times banging on the wall and complaining about his heart condition, all responses by the learner would cease.

S. At this point, many People indicated their desire to stop the experiment and check on the learner.

T. Some test subjects paused at 135 volts and began to question the purpose of the experiment.

U. Most continued after being assured that they would not be held responsible.

V. A few subjects began to laugh nervously or exhibit other signs of extreme stress once they heard the screams of pain coming from the learner.

W. If at any time the subject indicated his desire to halt the experiment, he was given a succession of verbal prods by the experimenter, in this order:

1. Please continue.

2. The experiment requires that you continue.

3. It is absolutely essential that you continue.

4. You have no other choice, you must go on.

X. If the subject still wished to stop after all four successive verbal prods, the experiment was halted.

Y. Otherwise, it was halted after the subject had given the maximum 450-volt shock three times in succession.

Z. The experimenter also gave special prods if the teacher made specific comments.

1. If the teacher asked whether the learner might suffer permanent physical harm, the experimenter replied, "Although the shocks may be painful, there is no permanent tissue damage, so please go on."

2. If the teacher said that the learner clearly wants to stop, the experimenter replied, "Whether the learner likes it or not, you must go on until he has learned all the word pairs correctly, so please go on.


A. If one were to survey say one thousand People then the possibility exists - not one of them would be aware of Milgram's experiments.

B. Thus. Current day Medical Scientists Psychologists and Psychiatrists would argue the experiment only affected those within the study.

C. If one understands the Mind and its interaction with the Body - one may well not be so willing to make such statements.

D.  The Shocks be they real or fake to either the Teacher, Learner or even an Observer played no part in the long-term outcome - Not so; the Mind is far to clever for that as it will see such games as highly patronising even if a Person demanded to be included in the study and insidiously adjust the Person Body Chemistry and in so doing create illness.  



Section 18.

A. Before conducting the experiment, Milgram polled fourteen Yale University senior-year psychology majors to predict the behavior of 100 hypothetical teachers.

B. All of the poll respondents believed that only a very small fraction of teachers - the range was from zero to 3 out of 100, with an average of 1.2 would be prepared to inflict the maximum voltage.

C. Milgram also informally polled his colleagues and found that they, too, believed very few subjects would progress beyond a very strong shock.

D. He also reached out to honorary Harvard University graduate Chaim Homnick, who noted that this experiment would not be concrete evidence of the Nazis' innocence, due to fact that; "poor People are more likely to cooperate."

E. Milgram also polled forty psychiatrists from a medical school and they believed that by the tenth shock, when the victim demands to be free, most subjects would stop the experiment.

F. They predicted that by the 300-volt shock, when the victim refuses to answer, only 3.73 percent of the subjects would still continue and, they believed that; "only a little over one-tenth of one percent of the subjects would administer the highest shock on the board."

G. In Milgram's first set of experiments, 65 percent - 26 of 40 of experiment participants administered the experiment's final massive 450-volt shock, though many were very uncomfortable doing so; at some point, every participant paused and questioned the experiment; some said they would refund the money they were paid for participating in the experiment.

H. Throughout the experiment, subjects displayed varying degrees of tension and stress. Subjects were sweating, trembling, stuttering, biting their lips, groaning, digging their fingernails into their skin and some were even having nervous laughing fits or seizures.

I. Milgram summarized the experiment in his 1974 article, "The Perils of Obedience," writing:

1. The legal and philosophic aspects of obedience are of enormous importance, but they say very little about how most People behave in concrete situations.

2. Simple experiments at Yale University by an experimental scientist to test how much pain an ordinary citizen would inflict on another Person simply because he was ordered to.

3. Authority was pitted against the subjects' - participants,' strongest moral imperatives against hurting others and, with the subjects' - participants' ears, ringing with the screams of the victims, authority won more often than not.

4. The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation.

5. Ordinary People, simply doing their jobs and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process.

6. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few People have the resources needed to resist authority.

I. The original Simulated Shock Generator and Event Recorder, or shock box, is located in the Archives of the History of American Psychology.

J. Later, Milgram and other psychologists performed variations of the experiment throughout the world, with similar results.

K. Milgram later investigated the effect of the experiment's locale on obedience levels by holding an experiment in an unregistered, backstreet office in a bustling city, as opposed to at Yale, a respectable university.

L. The level of obedience, "although somewhat reduced, was not significantly lower."

M. What made more of a difference was the proximity of the "learner" and the experimenter. There were also variations tested involving groups.

N. Thomas Blass of the University of Maryland, Baltimore County performed a meta-analysis on the results of repeated performances of the experiment.

P. He found that while the percentage of participants who are prepared to inflict fatal voltages ranged from 28% to 91%, there was no significant trend over time and the average percentage for US studies - 61% was close to the one for non-US studies - 66%.

Q. The participants who refused to administer the final shocks neither insisted that the experiment be terminated, nor left the room to check the health of the victim without requesting permission to leave, as per Milgram's notes and recollections, when fellow psychologist Philip Zimbardo asked him about that point.

R. Milgram created a documentary film titled Obedience showing the experiment and its results. He also produced a series of five social psychology films, some of which dealt with his experiments.


A. When one includes this from Item D. "He also reached out to honorary Harvard University graduate Chaim Homnick, who noted that this experiment would not be concrete evidence of the Nazis' innocence, due to fact that; "poor People are more likely to cooperate."

B. Can any Scientific Research have true Scientific Inquiry and make a satisfactory outcome - thereby improving the understanding of Peoples interaction with others; when clearly biased with such comments that includes Nazi war activity - no matter how offensive it may well have been and still is.

C. Again one is obliged to ask Did Milgram really comprehend what he was studying - why and on whose orders.   


Critical Reception.


Section 19.

A. The Milgram Shock Experiment raised questions about the research ethics of scientific experimentation because of the extreme emotional stress and inflicted insight suffered by the participants.

B. In Milgram's defense, 84 percent of former participants surveyed later said they were "glad," or "very glad," to have participated; 15 percent chose neutral responses - 92% of all former participants responding.

C. Many later wrote expressing thanks.

D. Milgram repeatedly received offers of assistance and requests to join his staff from former participants.

E. Six years later - at the height of the Vietnam War, one of the participants in the experiment sent correspondence to Milgram, explaining why he was glad to have participated despite the stress:

F. While I was a subject in 1964, though I believed that I was hurting someone, I was totally unaware of why I was doing so.

G. Few People ever realize when they are acting according to their own beliefs and when they are meekly submitting to authority.

H. To permit myself to be drafted with the understanding that I am submitting to authority's demand to do something very wrong would make me frightened of myself.

I. I am fully prepared to go to jail if I am not granted Conscientious Objector status.

J. Indeed, it is the only course I could take to be faithful to what I believe. My only hope is that members of my board act equally according to their conscience..

K. Milgram argued - in Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View that the ethical criticism provoked by his experiments was because his findings were disturbing and revealed unwelcome truths about human nature.

L. Others have argued that the ethical debate has diverted attention from more serious problems with the experiment's methodology.

M. Australian psychologist Gina Perry found an unpublished paper in Milgram's archives that shows Milgram's own concern with how believable the experimental set-up was to subjects involved.

N. Milgram asked his assistant to compile a breakdown of the number of participants who had seen through the experiments.

O. This unpublished analysis indicated that many subjects suspected that the experiment was a hoax, a finding that casts doubt on the veracity of his results.

P. In the journal Jewish Currents, Joseph Dimow, a participant in the 1961 experiment at Yale University, wrote about his early withdrawal as a "teacher," suspicious, "that the whole experiment was designed to see if ordinary Americans would obey immoral orders, as many Germans had done during the Nazi period."

Q. Perry also conducted interviews with subjects that cast doubt over Milgram's claims that he conducted a thorough debriefing to assure subjects they did not cause harm to the actors.

R. She reported that three quarters of the former subjects she interviewed thought they had actually shocked the actor and that the official debriefing specifications were only at the minimum level required at the time and so did not involve; "telling subjects the true purpose of the experiment or interviewing them for their reactions."

Conclusion. Surely Item P, Q and R have all the answers one is seeking; as demonstrated with.  "designed to see if ordinary Americans would obey immoral orders and, "telling subjects the true purpose of the experiment or interviewing them for their reactions."Is not fair to ask why although the Nazis are mentioned; the Jews are not.


Applicability to the Jewish Holocaust.

Section 20.

A. Milgram sparked direct critical response in the scientific community by claiming that; "a common psychological process is centrally involved in both - his laboratory experiments and Nazi Germany events."

B. James Waller, Chair of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Keene State College, formerly Chair of Whitworth College Psychology Department, expressed the opinion that Milgram experiments do not correspond well to the Holocaust events:

C. The subjects of Milgram experiments, wrote James Waller "Becoming Evil," were assured in advance that no permanent physical damage would result from their actions.

D. However, the Holocaust perpetrators were fully aware of their hands-on killing and maiming of the victims.

E. The laboratory subjects themselves did not know their victims and were not motivated by racism.

F. On the other hand, the Holocaust perpetrators displayed an intense devaluation of the victims through a lifetime of personal development.

G. Those serving punishment at the lab were not sadists, nor hate-mongers and often exhibited great anguish and conflict in the experiment, unlike the designers and executioners of the Final Solution - within the Holocaust trials, who had a clear "goal" on their hands, set beforehand.

H. The experiment lasted for an hour, with no time for the subjects to contemplate the implications of their behavior. Meanwhile, the Holocaust lasted for years with ample time for a moral assessment of all individuals and organizations involved.

I. In the opinion of Thomas Blass - who is the author of a scholarly monograph on the experiment. "The Man Who Shocked The World" published in 2004 - the historical evidence pertaining to actions of the Holocaust perpetrators speaks louder than words:


A. Is it possible the power of the argument involving the Holocaust provokes a saying. "Me thinks they protest to loudly" and that Milgram's approach did not provide a fully adequate explanation of the Holocaust.

B. While it may well account for the dutiful destructiveness of the dispassionate bureaucrat who may have shipped Jews to Auschwitz with the same degree of routinization as potatoes to Bremerhaven, it falls short when one tries to apply it to the more zealous, inventive and hate-driven atrocities that also characterized the Holocaust.

C. If we accept as a valid comment Item B should we again not ask by who and why were the order given and Obediently Obeyed for the Holocaust to have occurred in the beginning. Jewish Population Sacrifice comes easily to Mind with the desire for many to follow orders from an unknown source to sacrifice for the real but hidden cause.


Leaving one to consider is there an as yet unwritten reason for the so called holocaust and the reason why the: Hair, Shoes and Gas Canisters were kept.

That the Jews a cult following not a race of People created the holocaust themselves in order to establish the much used term of Political Correctness seen as a term of abuse; Anti Semitic, in order to gather world wide support and in so doing have their right - for their many thousands of years of being a lost tribe; returned and to remind them of the pain caused, they created Circumcision without anesthetics still a growing in recognition form of abuse today.

The Holocaust is this the truth. watch Video with sound.


Charges of Data Manipulation.

Section 21.

A. After an investigation of the test. Australian psychologist Gina Perry re-evaluated Milgram's data and stated that Milgram had manipulated his results.

B. "Overall, over half disobeyed," Perry stated. She found, contrary to the popular version, that there is a "troubling mismatch between - published descriptions of the experiment and evidence of what actually transpired."

C. She concludes, that many subjects did not in fact believe in the reality of the experiments, that "at some level, they had seen through the ruse" and that it is "more truthful to say that only half of the People who undertook the experiment fully believed it was real and of those, two-thirds. i.e. some 66 percent of all disobeyed the experimenter."

D. On the Holocaust connection, Perry writes: "He made this neat analogy - with the Holocaust. But without that rhetorical framework, Milgram's experiments become no more than reality TV.

E. It is clothed as science and, once clothed as science, you can sell it as science. The rhetorical framing is crucial to the survival of the obedience studies.

F. That was an unexpected outcome for me, really.

G. I regarded Stanley Milgram as a misunderstood genius who had been penalized in some ways for revealing something troubling and profound about Human nature.

H. By the end of my research I actually had quite a very different view of the man and the research.

I. I think it leaves social psychology in a difficult situation - it is such an iconic experiment.


A. When one has to fabricate the results as suggested here - should that not  lead to the question of; "why," and in addition ask; "why" is it - we continue to refer to and believe in Milgram's results.

B. Is it possible the reason that Milgram's experiment is still so famous today is because in a way it is like a powerful parable, with an equally powerful unwitting subliminal message.

C. That is so widely known and so often quoted that it has taken on a life of its own.  

D. This experiment and this story is about ourselves yet plays perhaps the most destructive event as yet known in the history of the world - in the same role for us 50 years later. We are born in a manner that only creates Obedience to the Orders given and received.

E. Whilst Gina Perry's comments were and perhaps justifiably harsh - is it possible in the final analysis she was also suppressed into obeying orders; as it appears she simply repeated Milgram's words about his experiments in Obedience and did not give an opposing and valid argument.



Section 22.

Milgram elaborated two theories:


1. The first is the theory of conformism, based on Solomon Asch conformity experiments, describing the fundamental relationship between the group of reference and the individual Person.

2. A subject who has neither ability nor expertise to make decisions, especially in a crisis, will leave decision making to the group and its hierarchy.

3. The group is the Person's behavioral model.


1. The second is the agentic state theory, wherein, per Milgram, "the essence of obedience consists in the fact that a Person comes to view themselves as the instrument for carrying out another Person's wishes and they therefore no longer see themselves as responsible for their actions.

A. Agentic leadership derives from the term - Agency. This leadership style is generally found in the business field by a Person who is in control of subordinates.

2. Once this critical shift of viewpoint has occurred in the Person, all of the essential features of obedience follow."


Alternative Interpretations.

Section 23.

A. In his book Irrational Exuberance, Yale finance professor Robert Shiller argues that other factors might be partially able to explain the Milgram Experiments:

B. People have learned that when experts tell them something is right, it probably is, even if it does not seem so.  

C. In fact, it is worth noting that in this case the experimenter was indeed correct: it was all right to continue giving the "shocks," even though most of the subjects did not suspect the reason.

D. In a 2006 experiment, a computerized avatar was used in place of the learner receiving electrical shocks.

E. Although the participants administering the shocks were aware that the learner was unreal, the experimenters reported that participants responded to the situation physiologically "as if it were real."

F. Another explanation of Milgram's results invokes belief perseverance as the underlying cause.

G. What "People cannot be counted on is to realize that a seemingly benevolent authority is in fact malevolent, even when they are faced with overwhelming evidence which suggests that this authority is indeed malevolent.

H. Hence, the underlying cause for the subjects' striking conduct; could well be conceptual and not the alleged, 'capacity of man to abandon his humanity, as he merges his unique personality into larger institutional structures."'

I. This last explanation receives some support from a 2009 episode of the BBC science documentary series Horizon, which involved replication of the Milgram experiment.

J. Of the twelve participants, only three refused to continue to the end of the experiment.

K. Speaking during the episode, social psychologist Clifford Stott discussed the influence that the idealism of scientific inquiry had on the volunteers.

L. He remarked: "The influence is ideological.

M. It's about what they believe science to be, that science is a positive product, it produces beneficial findings and knowledge to society that are helpful for society. So there's that sense of science is providing some kind of system for good."

N. Building on the importance of idealism, some recent researchers suggest the; 'engaged followership' perspective.

O. Based on an examination of Milgram's archive, in a recent study, social psychologists Alex Haslam, Stephen Reicher and Megan Birney, at the University of Queensland, discovered that People are less likely to follow the prods of an experimental leader when the prod resembles an order.

P. However, when the prod stresses the importance of the experiment for science. i.e. 'The experiment requires you to continue,' People are more likely to obey.

Q. The researchers suggest the perspective of 'engaged followership;' that People are not simply obeying the orders of a leader, but instead are willing to continue the experiment because of their desire to support the scientific goals of the leader and because of a lack of identification with the learner.

R. Also a Neuroscientific study supports this perspective, namely watching the learner receive electric shocks, does not activate brain regions involving empathic concerns.


A. When one considers the discussed influence the idealism of - scientific inquiry had on the volunteers, is it not best accepting. The influence is ideological if one only believes Medical Sciense is actually providing some kind of system for good.

B. Confirmed if Milgram was not fully aware of the real reason he was making his seemingly remarkable findings.


Replications and Variations.

Milgram's Variations.

Section 24.

A. In Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View - 1974, Milgram describes nineteen variations of his experiment, some of which had not been previously reported.

B. Several experiments varied the immediacy of the teacher and learner.

C. Generally, when the victim's physical immediacy was increased, the participant's compliance decreased.

D. The participant's compliance also decreased when the authority's physical immediacy decreased - Experiments 1–4.

E. For example, in Experiment 2, where participants received telephonic instructions from the experimenter, compliance decreased to 21 percent.

F. Interestingly, some participants deceived the experimenter by pretending to continue the experiment.

G. In the variation where the learner's physical immediacy was closest, where participants had to hold the learner's arm physically onto a shock plate, compliance decreased.

H. Under that condition, 30 percent of participants completed the experiment.

I. In Experiment 8, an all-Female contingent was used; previously, all participants had been Men.

J. Obedience did not significantly differ, though the Women communicated experiencing higher levels of stress.

K. Experiment 10 took place in a modest office in Bridgeport, Connecticut, purporting to be the commercial entity. "Research Associates of Bridgeport," without apparent connection to Yale University, in order to eliminate the university's prestige as a possible factor influencing the participants' behavior.

L. In those conditions, obedience dropped to 47.5 percent, though the difference was not statistically significant.

M. Milgram also combined the effect of authority with that of conformity. In those experiments, the participant was joined by one or two additional "teachers," - also actors, like the "learner."

N. The behavior of the participants' peers strongly affected the results.

O. In Experiment 17, when two additional teachers refused to comply, only 4 of 40 participants continued in the experiment.

P. In Experiment 18, the participant performed a subsidiary task - reading the questions via microphone or recording the learner's answers with another "teacher" who complied fully. In that variation, 37 of 40 continued with the experiment.


A. It is clear that Milgram and any researchers that followed in his footsteps only ever succeeded in replicating failure to comprehend - the Mind and its ability to remain in control no matter what silly games it is ordered to participate in.

B. This is not the same as complying with Moral and Legal orders from significant Persons.

C. Should we not also consider if Medical Science inquiry keeps repeating an experiment - one ultimately will find the answer one was looking for all the time. Although never being aware of this; as the true driving force was embedded deep in researchers Mind, as it would, like illness, feel completely logical.



Section 25.

A. Around the time of the release of Obedience to Authority in 1973-1974, a version of the experiment was conducted at La Trobe University in Australia.

B. As reported by Perry in her 2012 book Behind the Shock Machine, some of the participants experienced long-lasting psychological effects, possibly due to the lack of proper debriefing by the experimenter.

C. In 2002, the British artist Rod Dickinson created The Milgram Re-enactment, an exact reconstruction of parts of the original experiment, including the uniforms, lighting and rooms used.

D. An audience watched the four-hour performance through one-way glass windows.

E. A video of this performance was first shown at the CCA Gallery in Glasgow in 2002.

F. A partial replication of the experiment was staged by British illusionist Derren Brown and broadcast on UK's Channel 4 in The Heist; 2006.

G. Another partial replication of the experiment was conducted by Jerry M. Burger in 2006 and broadcast on the Primetime series Basic Instincts. Burger noted that "current standards for the ethical treatment of participants clearly place Milgram's studies out of bounds."

H. In 2009, Burger was able to receive approval from the institutional review board by modifying several of the experimental protocols.

I. Burger found obedience rates virtually identical to those reported by Milgram found in 1961–62, even while meeting current ethical regulations of informing participants.

J. In addition, half the replication participants were Female and their rate of obedience was virtually identical to that of the Male participants.

K. Burger also included a condition in which participants first saw another participant refuse to continue. However, participants in this condition obeyed at the same rate as participants in the base condition.

L. In the 2010 French documentary Le Jeu de la Mort. "The Game of Death," researchers recreated the Milgram experiment with an added critique of reality television by presenting the scenario as a game show pilot.

M. Volunteers were given €40 and told they would not win any money from the game, as this was only a trial.

N. Only 16 of 80 "contestants;" teachers chose to end the game before delivering the highest-voltage punishment.

O. The experiment was performed on Dateline NBC on an episode airing April 25, 2010.

P. The Discovery Channel aired the. "How Evil are You," segment of Curiosity on October 30, 2011. The episode was hosted by Eli Roth, who produced results similar to the original Milgram experiment, though the highest-voltage punishment used was 165 volts, rather than 450 volts.

Q. Due to increasingly widespread knowledge of the experiment, recent replications of the procedure have had to ensure that participants were not previously aware of it.


A. Although Item B suggests some of the participants experienced long-lasting psychological effects, possibly due to the lack of proper debriefing by the experimenter.

B. Milgram can for the time be somewhat excused for his lack of Scientific Inquiry into not only the Mind - as in 2017 it is only just being observed as implicit in illness, but within his own Mind in order to comprehend what he was actually doing the experiments for.

C. Once again even though I could not in any manner approve - this type of experiment is only good for the illusion of Television and Films.  


Other Variations.

Section 26.

A. Charles Sheridan and Richard King - at the University of Missouri and the University of California, Berkeley, respectively hypothesized that some of Milgram's subjects may have suspected that the victim was faking, so they repeated the experiment with a real victim: a "cute, fluffy puppy" who was given real, albeit apparently harmless, electric shocks.

B. Their findings were dissimilar to those of Milgram: half of the Male subjects and all of the Females obeyed throughout.

C. Many subjects showed high levels of distress during the experiment and some openly wept.

D. In addition, Sheridan and King found that the duration for which the shock button was pressed decreased as the shocks got higher, meaning that for higher shock levels, subjects were more hesitant.


A. When Medical Scientists no matter how highly qualified respected or cited for their work with item as A above - it is clear they are either unaware of having been submissive to the authority of University Education into believing everything they are taught and not arguing against the gut feeling all is not right - which is the sign of good teaching and in so doing conveniently forget the very tenants of life that is not a Guesswork Hypotheses; as it is one of the only provable facts of Human life. "We are all Children of Parents and in the main Parents of Children. thus can only Conform to Authority.

B. Thus in life there are only two proven facts...

1. Life is born.

2. Life at Death terminates.

Following one and preceding the other - everything in between is no more than an opinion each of has a fundamental right too.

Question. 1. Has all of this satisfied Scientific Inquiry or is there more to make of the so called experiments of Milgram and his band of followers in the years since?

Answer. 1.  Yes there is more and one may consider we have not even started yet.


Should Police and Soldiers remain in such Obedience and Orders in controlled Positions?

Section 27...

A. This is not in any way to be considered we are able to live life without the rules we all subscribe to or should have no rules applied to the public life we lead - no more than it is to be seen as a belief - as a race of People we could live the comfortable life we do without the protection Our dedicated: Police, Soldiers, Sailors and Air personnel of all three forces continually provide for us.

B. It is however in keeping with the findings of Professor Stanley Milgram and the long-term values such experiments have perhaps delivered to the populations that left many question unasked and as many unanswered for not only clinicians of the Psychological Mental health but Biological physicians as well. 

C. Particularly relating to the Holocaust in Section 20 and Data Manipulation Section 21 and the rational behind such Human, applied atrocities and manipulating behaviours.

Conclusion. Then we can examine the rational behind the entire population of the world starting at the very top degree of society through Bankers, lobbyists, Politicians - let us not beat about the bush; everyone - no exceptions. 


Order Followers.   

Section 28...

Question. 1. What is an Order Follower?

Answer. 1.  It appears Order followers are the People who keep the system of slavery in place.

Question. 2. Is that saying - not as we have always believed - The Ruling Class are the Masters?

Answer. 2.  Nor the so called elite - which are not the elite of anything; as this is in reality only a demonstration of high Anxiety that has to be or has been relieved.

Question. 3. Please interpret?

Answer. 3. The reality is - the so called Elite are only those with a very Low value of self-worth and control of others is a way of increasing their Estimation; if only in their own eyes or those of similar desires or values.

Question. 4.  How then can Order Followers be defined?

Answer. 4. Order followers are the People who keep slavery in place or the People and who willfully follow their orders.

Question. 5. That appears somewhat far to truthful - how do you think People will react? 

Answer. 5. It is the truth nobody wants to hear and it is fair to say. People will hate you for saying so.

Question. 6. What then does following orders really mean?

Answer. 6. Following orders means by definition - doing what you are told to do without judging for yourself whether or not the action that you have been ordered to carry out is actually; Right or Wrong.

Question. 7. Can anybody refute that not the actual definition of following someone else's orders.

Answer. 7. It must be acceptable to all - if one is following the orders given to you and then one just does it; you are following the orders.

Question. 8. Would one not question the orders?

Answer. 8. By definition if you are following orders. You do not sit and ponder or even question. "was the order that Person just gave me right - do I have a Moral or Legal right to do that or wrong I should do that; because it is ok and does not hurt anyone or should I not do that, because it does cause others harm.

Question. 9.  Where would this leave a Person?

Answer. 9. Surely. It is not what an Order Follower Person does in their Mind when they concede say yes sir and follows the order that is important - it is to obediently obey the instructions. that is why they are called an Order Follower.

Question. 10. So is that really the actual definition of an Order Follower.

Answer. 10. Surly it is not a perception of Order Following - the fact is; a Person of significant authority or sometimes not, gives an order and less significant others follow the instructions received. Is demonstration enough.

Question. 11. Are we to understand in blindly following orders we have given up our free will?  

Answer. 11...

A. In an individual this is key to understanding the performing of Milgram's test is of following orders.

B. Thus by definition an individual cannot be exercising their conscience or conscious free will - since by definition exercising conscience or conscious free will; means that one is willfully choosing through their own free will for themselves.

Question. 12.  Where if at all does Right Action over Wrong Action fit with the study or even life? 

Answer. 12...

A. The concept of Following Orders is completely Polar Opposite to the concept of exercising conscience decision to not follow orders - as one cannot do two things simultaneously; they are a contradictions in terms.

B. This can be expressed with; One cannot be Objective and Subjective on oneself at the same time.

C. Simply put. Look in on oneself and look out from oneself at the same time.

Question. 13. Explanation please?

Answer. 13... 

A. Being Objective and Subjective - looking out from oneself and looking in at the same time; as one will always  compromise the other. 

B. By definition of following orders one cannot be actually exercising conscious decision making which involves free will choice based on ones prior knowledge of right and wrong.

Question. 14. It appear Following Orders can be both good and bad, how does one differentiate?

Answer. 14. On the face of it one may be minded to agree - however. Here is what Order following gets us as far as our nations are concerned for it appears we have all been taken in covertly or underhandedly by what is known as the New World Order not that these People or Order Followers had not already been taken in themselves.

Question. 15. Are there any examples to demonstrate this is so?

Answer. 15...

A.  One may consider. The Psychotics or Weak willed in Believing. "We," as a race of People could not be beaten militarily as they did not have the might - thus being Order Followers took us into the school system - thus the school system is used to get into the Minds of Children in Order to create and maintain control.

B. Surely if one does not believe this happens; one is possibly very naive and in so being; an Order Follower, yet is not aware of it.

Question. 16. Knowing how us Humans have to box or Label something how would one categories. Order Following?  

Answer. 16. This is just one of the many forms of socialism or feudalism as demonstrated by the Nazis but the Communists as well.

Question. 17. How would one describe Socialism?

Answer. 17. Perhaps the true definition of World Wide Socialism is - there is no such thing a private property; the state own everything, rights do not exist, property rights do not exist and everyone is a feudal surf again.

Question. 18. Is this is what is known as - Neo Feudalism?

Answer. 18...

A. If one wants to come at this from the left it is called Communism and from the right it is called National Socialism. 

B. Communism is a National Socialism they are both the same force - called Feudalism which in itself is another word for slavery.

C. The New World Order desire is Neo Feudalism slavery and it is already here it is not something that is coming.

Question. 19. What is NWO and what does it do to or for society?

Answer. 19....

A.  As of 2017 it appears the objective of the New World Order is as yet not clear - thus it is a process rather than a controlling body.

B. However with the power certain segments of society are putting into delivering it - the object may be better served if we as a race of People stop this NWO and in so doing get out of it; as it may well be only as a result of blindly Orders Following from an as yet unknown entity.

Question. 20.  So are we saying - Blindly Following orders must never be seen as a virtue; as it is evil?

Answer. 20. Surely one must show caution to this suggestion and in so doing be allowed to demonstrate - in keeping with ones fellow Humans; common sense and ones own free will to say. "No I will not do that," to an order that clearly has Immoral, Illegal,  unseen or pure - evil intentions.

Question. 21. How may we clearly explain this?

Answer. 21...


1. Surely one should not have to concern oneself as action should be natural and automatic - against a Person who gives an order if of high social-political position or even a representative of churches of any and all denominations; if the order clearly has some form of Illegal, Immoral or Evil Intentions.

2. If one carries out the order this is tantamount to having just committed an act of evil oneself.

B. If one acts based on the orders of another Person and yet do not agree with its intentions and act on the order; one has just committed an act of evil - there is no Morality in the action at all. 

C. It is not a virtue - it is evil. Moreover under these circumstances there is no moral act of following orders, the two terms are contradictory.

D. In addition. In an attempt to defend ones actions by saying. "I was just following orders" is never a valid excuse or justification for following immoral orders or criminal behaviour or valid excuse to abdicate personal responsibility. 

E. Thus should never be accepted as a valid excuse for such behaviour.

Question. 22.  So are we suggesting. "I was just doing my job" has some legal standing?

Answer. 22.  It appears the justification for this was created through the right to make and create laws - from the Latin. "Jus = "right Law" and the Latin verb. Facere = "to make create" and this is what a Person say a Policeman or a Soldier  say. "I was just following orders, I was just doing my job by shutting down your demonstration or protest - you do not have a right to speak; the politicians commanded you, so I just came out to do my job.

Question. 23.  So are we or are we not saying; under these circumstances. "I was Just doing my job, just carrying out my orders - is a justification?"

Answer. 23...

A.  Of course as we have previously discussed there are times when one must follow orders.

B. However one must surely have the Legal and Moral right or obligation to justify for oneself - as to whether the orders have a good intentions or not. 

C. Otherwise such orders and blindly following them is criminal - meaning there is nothing moral OR virtuous in them.

D. That it is called: criminal behaviour, criminal activity and what the Order givers do - is try to create in those Blindly following orders is their right - a justification.

E. Surely. No one should ever accept this as a justification act in such a manner - as psychotic behaviour has no real justification or value or a is a complete lie.

Question. 24.  Is negative illegal or immoral activity any better than looking in another's face and saying. "I am not responsible for that I just did it I was following thus acting on orders received?"

Answer. 24.  This defence did not work as the Nuremburg defence.

Question. 25. What is the Nuremburg Defence and how does it fit into Milgram's Obedience Experiments?

Answer. 25. Phew and I thought I had lost you for a while.

A. Should we all be accepting now - just because we believe in the legitimacy of authority - which in reality is often Mind Control; That People believe; there is legitimacy to this type of criminal behaviour, because there is a class of People called government who have magically been imbued and gifted with such rights of control that they believe they have rights others do not. 

B. Moreover the People affected with such criminal behaviour really believe the Order givers have such authority.

Conclusion. Is it possible there is always a hidden agenda behind orders that appear to, or do promote. Immoral and or illegal Activity.

Question. 26. Are you now able to respond to my question. "What is the Nuremburg Defence and how does it fit into Milgram's Obedience Experiments?

Answer. 26.  May we first concern ourselves with the Nuremburg Defence - which may well be the very foundation of Milgram's requirement to experiment.


Superior Orders.

Section 29.

A. Superior orders, often known as the Nuremberg defense, lawful orders or by the German phrase Befehl ist Befehl. "only following orders," literally, "an order is an order," is a plea in a court of law that a Person - whether a member of the military, law enforcement, a firefighting force, or the civilian population; not be held guilty for actions which were ordered by a superior officer or an official.

B. The superior orders plea is often regarded as the complement to command responsibility.

C. One of the most noted uses of this plea, or defense, was by the accused in the 1945–1946 Nuremberg trials, such that it is also called; "The Nuremberg defense."

D. The Nuremberg Trials were a series of military tribunals, held by the main victorious Allied forces after World War II, most notable for the prosecution of prominent members of the political, military and economic leadership of the defeated Nazi Germany.

E. It was during these trials, under the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal which set them up, that the defense of superior orders was no longer considered enough to escape punishment; but merely enough to lessen punishment. 

F. Historically, the plea of superior orders has been used both before and after the Nuremberg Trials, with a notable lack of consistency in various rulings.


A. Apart from the specific plea of superior orders, discussions about how the general concept of superior orders ought to be used, or ought not to be used, have taken place in various arguments, rulings and statutes that have not necessarily been part of “after the fact” war crimes trials, strictly speaking.

B. Nevertheless, these discussions and related events help to explain the evolution of the specific plea of superior orders and the history of its usage.


A. Is it not fair to say from the highest official in each country down through the ranks to the Policeman in our cities Soldiers and Sailors and Air Force personnel in a foreign or our own land upholding or fighting for peace - if a Person in the street was given an order and would not carry out the order; would they not  be imprisoned or executed as a Traitor to their country.

B. Should not the LAW stand and act both ways if later the Orders were shown to be of immoral or illegal content.

C. Surely we all know what is right and what is wrong and thus cease manipulating the Laws in order to protect the real Order Givers and their reason behind the Immoral or illegal orders.

D. In addition - if we still in the year 2017 do not know the cause of any illness; nor have any cures, do we really understand the process or the long-term outcome of health and well being of our Populations from such Impossible Orders and does anyone in authority actually care.    


The 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

Headquarters of the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Section 30. 

A. The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court - often referred to as the International Criminal Court Statute or the Rome Statute is the treaty that established the International Criminal Court - ICC.

B. It was adopted at a diplomatic conference in Rome on 17 July 1998 and it entered into force on 1 July 2002.

C. As of March 2016, 124 states are party to the statute.

D. Among other things, the statute establishes the court's functions, jurisdiction and structure. 

E. The Rome Statute established four core international crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and the crime of aggression.

F. Those crimes; "shall not be subject to any statute of limitations."

G. Under the Rome Statute, the ICC can only investigate and prosecute the four core international crimes in situations where states are; "unable," or "unwilling," to do so themselves.

H. The court has jurisdiction over crimes only if they are committed in the territory of a state party or if they are committed by a national of a state party; an exception to this rule is that the ICC may also have jurisdiction over crimes if its jurisdiction is authorized by the United Nations Security Council.

I. Following years of negotiation, aimed at establishing a permanent international tribunal to prosecute individuals accused of genocide and other serious international crimes, such as crimes against humanity, war crimes and crimes of aggression, the United Nations General Assembly convened a five-week diplomatic conference in Rome in June 1998; "to finalize and adopt a convention on the establishment of an international criminal court."

J. On 17 July 1998, the Rome Statute was adopted by a vote of 120 to 7, with 21 countries abstaining.

K. Because the way each delegation voted was officially unrecorded, there is some dispute over the identity of the seven countries that voted against the treaty.

L. It is certain that the People's Republic of China, Israel and the United States were three of the seven because they have publicly confirmed their negative votes; India, Indonesia, Iraq, Libya, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen have been identified by various observers and commentators as possible sources for the other four negative votes, with Iraq, Libya, Qatar and Yemen being the four most commonly identified.


A. Once again I state the Law is not in my remit - however; I do feel if only for my own Life, I know right from wrong, although one has to say perhaps not always practiced it.

B.  One is obliged to question with a ruling so important what ulterior motive was exerted by Rome and significant others.

C. Why was such an important historical law allowed to be passed with so many countries being allowed to abstain from voting

D. What was the real reason Israel abstained - when one considers they may well have had most to gain.

E.  With the United States of America being such a close ally of Israel why did they abstain from voting for such an import world wide collaboration on the often hidden historical atrocities of War.

F. Or were the abstainers all just Following Orders - if so; who was or is the perhaps Secret. Master Order Giver.   


Hagenbach Trial.

Section 31.

A. Hagenbach on trial, from Berner Chronik des Diebold Schilling dem Älteren.

B. In 1474, in the trial of Peter von Hagenbach by an ad hoc tribunal of the Holy Roman Empire, the first known "international" recognition of a commanders' obligations to act lawfully occurred.

C. Hagenbach offered the defense - that he was just following orders, but this defense was rejected and he was convicted of war crimes and beheaded. 

D. Specifically, Hagenbach was put on trial for atrocities committed under his command but not by him directly, during the occupation of Breisach.

E. This was the earliest modern European example of the doctrine of command responsibility.

F. Since he was convicted for crimes; "he as a knight was deemed to have a duty to prevent," Hagenbach defended himself by arguing that he was only following orders from the Duke of Burgundy, Charles the Bold, to whom the Holy Roman Empire had given Breisach. This defense was rejected.


A.  It appears quite reasonable to observe - the confusion of Following Orders and responsibility had a long history of confusion as to who bore Ultimate Responsibility of any negative outcomes; where there were no winners, only the victims of such atrocities. That no one in realty knew from who the orders emanated from.

B. In addition one may well ask - what was the Holy Roman Empires involvement in matters of France and what was their ulterior motive.

C. Or were all those involved just Following Orders - if so; who was or is the perhaps Secret. Master Order Giver.   


Superior Orders 2.

Section 32.

A. History from 1900 to 1947.

B. German military trials after World War I.

C. On June 4, 1921, the legal doctrine of superior orders was used during the German Military Trials that took place after World War I: One of the most famous of these trials was the matter of Lieutenant Karl Neumann, who was a U-boat captain responsible for the sinking of the hospital ship the Dover Castle.

D. Even though he frankly admitted to having sunk the ship, he stated that he had done so on the basis of orders supplied to him by the German Admiralty and so he could not be held liable for his actions.

E. The Reichsgericht, then Germany's supreme court, acquitted him, accepting the defense of superior orders as a grounds to escape criminal liability.

F. Further, that very court had this to say in the matter of superior orders: that all civilized nations recognize the principle that a subordinate is covered by the orders of his superiors.

G. Many accused of war crimes were acquitted on a similar defense, creating immense dissatisfaction among the Allies.

H. That has been thought to be one of the main causes for the specific removal of this defense in the August 8, 1945 London Charter of the International Military Tribunal.

I. The removal has been attributed to the actions of Robert H. Jackson, a Justice of the United States Supreme Court, who was appointed Chief Prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials.


A. Although the Sinking of the Dover Castle - torpedoed by the German U-boat UC-67 on 26 May 1917, while 50 miles - 80 km north of Bône on passage from Malta to Gibraltar, appeared to be only due to involvement of the war between Germany and The United Kingdom. Once again the Master Order Giver escaped detection as no one was found guilty of yet another atrocity of War.

B. At the time of the sinking of the Dover Castle it was still sixteen years or so before the birth of Stanley Milgram.

C. However as the 1939-45 war arrived by the time he was Six and his family lived in America - are we really to understand feelings did not run high and increased even higher when news of the Holocaust Atrocities arrived in America. Where no one of Jewish decent could do anything about it; other than sit around a table and scream at the Germans. 

D.  Given the years of gestation from birth in 1933 until his Experiments on Obedience in 1960/1 should one not ask, "was all of this unwitting education affecting Milgram," thereby preparing him for the fatal heart attack in 1984 and was it this process that gave him the Creativity as the Brakes on Madness of being in America and doing nothing to help his fellow Israeli countryman and Women. 


Dostler Case.

Section 33.

A. Dostler was tied to a stake before the execution.

B. On October 8, 1945, Anton Dostler was the first German general to be tried for war crimes by a US military tribunal at the Royal Palace in Caserta.

C. He was accused of ordering the execution of 15 captured US soldiers of Operation Ginny II in Italy in March 1944.

D. He admitted to ordering the execution but said that he could not be held responsible because he was following orders from his superiors.

E. The execution of the prisoners of war in Italy, ordered by Dostler, was an implementation of Adolf Hitler's Commando Order of 1942 which required the immediate execution of all Allied commandos, whether they were in proper uniforms or not, without trial if they were apprehended by German forces.

F. The tribunal rejected the defense of Superior Orders and found Dostler guilty of war crimes.

G. He was sentenced to death and executed by a firing squad on December 1, 1945, in Aversa. 

H. The Dostler case became a precedent for the principle that was used in the Nuremberg Trials of German generals, officials and Nazi leaders beginning in November 1945: using superior orders as a defense does not relieve officers from responsibility of carrying out illegal orders and their liability to be punished in court.

I. The principle was codified in Principle IV of the Nuremberg Principles and similar principles were found in sections of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.


A. Once again the Master Order Giver escaped detection as no one was really found guilty of yet another atrocity of War - for if we are to accept Dostler in this case was guilty as charged should not ALL of the order givers right to the very top have been charged with war crimes and if they were not - should we not ask. "Why."

B. Again we must ask. Yet. only if we are able to accept the rules relating to Orders Followers are fundamentally flawed - as it appears they are only applied in order to hide the true Order Givers complicity in the actions of the Order Followers; what was the real impact on Milgram leading to his experiments and more importunely was he aware of same or just unwittingly following orders.


Nuremberg Trials after World War II.

Section 34.

A. In 1945 and 1946, during the Nuremberg trials the issue of Superior's Orders again arose.

B. Before the end of World War II, the Allies suspected such a defense might be employed and issued the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal - IMT, which explicitly stated that following an unlawful order is not a valid defense against charges of war crimes. 

C. Thus, under Nuremberg Principle IV, "defense of Superior's Orders" is not a defense for war crimes, although it might be a mitigating factor that could influence a sentencing authority to lessen the penalty. Nuremberg Principle IV states:

D. "The fact that a Person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him."

E. During the Nuremberg Trials, Wilhelm Keitel, Alfred Jodl and other defendants unsuccessfully used the defense.

F. In most cases, the tribunal found that the defendants' offenses were so egregious - outstandingly bad, shocking. That obedience to superior orders could not be considered a mitigating factor.


A. Once again the Master Order Giver escaped detection - as no one was really found guilty of yet another atrocity of War; for if we are to accept  in this case: Wilhelm Keitel, Alfred Jodl and other defendants were guilty as charged. Should not ALL of the order givers right to the very top have been charged with war crimes and if they were not - should we not ask. "Why."

B. Surely no one ever carries out such atrocities reported as War Crimes on their own accord - unless they have a diagnosable psychological disorder. Then one must surely question the superiors motive for promoting such a Person into a rank having such authority over others. 

B. Again we must ask. Yet. only if we are able to accept the rules relating to Orders Followers are fundamentally flawed - as it appears they are only applied in order to hide the true Order Givers complicity in the actions of the Order Followers.

C. What then we must ask - was the real impact on Milgram leading to his experiments and more importunately; was he aware of such impact or just unwittingly Following Orders. 

D. Is this not a sign of things to come in the future as we in the United Kingdom and I suspect many other countries of the world the law of the land appears to have been turned on its head.

 Thus if you are a criminal and convicted you are given leave by the presiding judge to; "return to your family they need you." And if you are a victim - as a result sentenced to a lifetime of emotional pain and often physical discomfort; thus are guilty as charged.


Nuremberg Trials after World War II.

Section 35.

Question 1. Has no one ever come to the defence of People that have no option but to follow their Superior's Orders?

Answer. 1. it appears in history there is one Person themself a Person of Significance - if one dare to make such a comment.

A.  It is reported. Mahatma Gandhi said. "You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees."

Question. 2... What is the meaning behind Gandhi's comment? 

Answer. 2...

A. Surely it must go without saying. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means; partaking of the evil a good Person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul which means - saying no to such orders.  

B. It appears People do follow orders... yet military and law enforcement officers are allowed to break orders if they feel it is an unlawful order.

D. If one served one may well find there have been plenty of soldiers who have turned down orders because they were unlawful.

E. Perhaps we should not blame the military and call them all mindless slaves to their masters who follow any command given to them.

F. There are more good then bad in both those groups.

G. The difference between Nazi, Soviet era soldiers and America's soldiers is... Nazi and Soviet Officers would kill a Person and their family for disobeying orders.

H. Does this not make somewhat a mockery of any law as it appears there is one for the rank and file and another for the officers and high Ranking commanders that give all military orders in the first place.

I. Once again we must ask where exactly does Milgram's experiments on Obedience fit in and what is the real purpose behind them - was he aware of the real reason and how is at all is this all implicated in his early death.

J. And more importantly from where in real and undeniable terms did the orders come from and what was their real intention.


New World Order.

Section 36.

Question. 1. It appears we have said a lot but not really come to any satisfactory conclusions about Milgram's Experiments - why is this?

Answer. 1. On that I am unable to disagree - the reason may well be hidden from view but in plain sight.

Question. 2. What do you mean by that?

Answer. 2.  It is clear that the skill in giving orders that have not only a devastating effect is to do it in such a manner or by devious devices change the laws of many lands in order to protect the real order givers and at the same time create something unseen yet in plain sight for all to see.

Question. 3. And that is?

Answer. 3...

A. It appears since early to mid 2016 - although the process has been insidiously been creeping up on everyone over many years; the world is a much changed place and there is much more to come.

B. On the one hand it has become more transparent - yet on the other hand more secret and devious as to the intent and Milgram's Experiment is at the heart of the change but only in recent times; as the process has been going on very much longer than most if not all would give credence too.

Question. 4. That sounds about as devious as the process you are trying to understand?

Answer. 4...

A. I agree - moreover the real truth may well not show itself for many decades to come.

B. Let us start with words our major Order givers the world stage Politicians started using in earnest a year or two ago:

1.  New World Order.  Mostly and even from my own point of view - always meant an Entity or a Governing Body. whereas it may well mean;  "Now We Own," or "Now we Order," or even. "Nuremberg Will Out." thereby hiding up the true intentions of - as a Significant Order Giver in history once said. "Control the Money control the politicians and the law."

Question. 5. That is a bit heavy - is it not? But is there a deeper message hidden in plain sight?

Answer. 5...

A. Fortunately it is not my words as all of it has long been in the public domain.

B. Whether this is the truth or not is of no consequence - it is the implication that is more significant; as it relies on People following orders to come to fruition.

C. Let us for understanding sake call the New World Order a business process and ask just who owns it. runs it or better said - gives the orders and what is the real reason behind it as it clearly appears it is a world domination type of control we only read of in James Bond type Movies.  

D. And - Yes there is a message; hidden in plain sight and Milgram himself exposed it, but never spoke in plain language...

E. ...His experiments were for himself the teachers and the learners and even the observers to test a hypotheses. "if one creates a powerful Anxiety;" will just the recipients relieve it - wittingly or unwittingly by just blindly obeying orders. Or simply reject the orders as their conscience would not allow them to obey.

Question. 6.  So if the New World Order is a process how may we explain or explore this?

Answer. 6...

A. Whilst I have to confess this is above my pay grade of historically proven facts and more importantly way before my time on this planet and anyone alive today.

B. An event happened that was adopted locally - yet as the populations traversed the world went with them where all participants carried with them an unrelievable Anxiety where they could not remember the event happening to them - thus did not know the cause. Yet is was accepted as a Family or Religious Tradition.

C. It is this as I see things that created the desire for the New World Order or Now We Own one or both yet to come to full maturity. 

Question. 7.  Is it fair to suggest you are talking of an event between two and say seven thousand years ago? 

Answer. 7...

A. If we accept this is true. 


1. Although it may well take a fair degree of reading between the lines in Order to connect the event many hundreds of years ago; Between Milgram's experiment and driving force it appears the Holocaust and the NWO.

2. There a more recent event that may assist in understanding the reason for Milgram's Experiment in Obedience?


MS. St Louis Voyage of the Dammed.

Section 37. 

1. The MS St. Louis was a German ocean liner. In 1939, it set off on a voyage in which its captain, Gustav Schröder, tried to find homes for over 900 Jewish refugees from Germany.

2. After they were denied entry to Cuba, the United States and Canada, the refugees were finally accepted in various European countries, including Belgium, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and France.

3. Historians have estimated that approximately a quarter of them died in death camps during World War II.

4. The event was the subject of a 1974 book, Voyage of the Damned, by Gordon Thomas and Max Morgan-Witts.

5. It was adapted for a 1976 U.S. film of the same title and a 1994 opera titled "St. Louis Blues" by Chiel Meijering.


A. It is reasonable to consider the general public were not made aware of the general state of unrest leading up to the breakout of World War two.

B. The many governments throughout the world would have been.

C. Leaving one to question was there a hidden motive in the MS St Louis being sent on such an obviously very perilous journey.

D. Moreover; What was the true motive and who gave the orders for local politicians to follow - giving the People on board false hope the run around and the carrot dangling of the few selected to remain on foreign ground; that sent them all back where they came from. 

E. Many as reported to certain deaths in the various so called German Death Camps and yet left many survivors in other countries to tell the tale.    


MS. St Louis - Background. 

Section 38. 

A. Built by the Bremer Vulkan shipyards in Bremen for the Hamburg America Line, the St. Louis was a diesel-powered ship and properly referred to with the prefix. "MS" or "MV," but she is often known as the. "SS St. Louis." The ship was named after the city of St. Louis, Missouri.

B. The St. Louis regularly sailed the trans-Atlantic route from Hamburg to Halifax, Nova Scotia and New York and made cruises to the Canary Islands, Madeira and Morocco.

C. The St. Louis was built for both transatlantic liner service and for leisure cruises.


MS. St Louis Voyage of the Dammed 2.

Section 39. 

1. The St. Louis set sail from Hamburg to Cuba on May 13, 1939. The vessel under command of Captain Gustav Schröder was carrying 937 passengers, most of them Jewish refugees seeking asylum from Nazi persecution.

2. Captain Schröder was a non-Jewish German who went to great lengths to ensure dignified treatment for his passengers.

3. The journey to Cuba was a joyous affair.

4. The passengers aboard the St. Louis had suffered ill-treatment in Germany, but on board, they were treated very well, at the insistence of Captain Schröder.

5. Food served included items subject to rationing in Germany and Childcare was available while Parents dined.

6. Dances and concerts were put on and on Friday evenings, religious services were held in the dining room.

7. A bust of Hitler there was covered by a tablecloth.

8. Swimming lessons took place in the on-deck pool.

9. Lothar Molton, a boy traveling with his Parents, said that the passengers thought of it as; "a vacation cruise to freedom."

10. The ship dropped anchor at 04:00 on May 27 at the far end of the Havana harbor and was denied entry to the usual docking areas.

11. The next six days on the harbor were tumultuous times.

12. The Cuban government, headed by President Federico Laredo Brú, refused to accept the foreign refugees.

13. Although passengers had previously purchased legal visas, they could not enter Cuba either as tourists - laws related to tourist visas or as refugees seeking political asylum had recently been changed.

14. On May 5, 1939, four months before World War II began, Havana abandoned its former pragmatic immigration policy and instead issued Decree 937, which "restricted entry of all foreigners except U.S. citizens requiring a bond of $500 and authorization by the Cuban secretaries of state and labor.

15. Permits and visas issued before May 5 were invalidated retroactively."

16. None of the passengers were aware that the Cuban government had retroactively invalidated their landing permits. 

17. In the end, only 29 passengers were allowed to disembark in Cuba.

18. Twenty-two of them were Jewish and had valid US visas; the remaining six-four Spanish citizens and two Cuban nationals-had valid entry documents.

19. Another passenger, after attempting to commit suicide, was evacuated to a hospital in Havana.

20. Telephone records show American officials Cordell Hull, Secretary of State and Henry Morgenthau, Secretary of the Treasury had made some efforts to persuade Cuba to accept the refugees.

21. Their actions, together with efforts of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, were not successful.

22. Prohibited from landing in Cuba, the St. Louis and the remaining 907 refugees headed towards the United States.

23. Captain Schröder circled off the coast of Florida, hoping for permission to enter the United States.

24. Cordell Hull, Secretary of State, advised Roosevelt not to accept the Jews, however. Captain Schröder considered running aground along the coast to allow the refugees to escape, but, acting on Cordell Hull's instructions, US Coast Guard vessels shadowed the ship and prevented such a move.

25. After the St. Louis was turned away from the United States, a group of academics and clergy in Canada tried to persuade Canada's Prime Minister, William Lyon Mackenzie King, to provide sanctuary to the ship's passengers, as it was only two days from Halifax, Nova Scotia.

26. But Canadian immigration official Frederick Blair, hostile to Jewish immigration, persuaded King on June 9 not to intervene. In 2000, Former United Kingdom Prime Minister Tony Blair's nephew apologized to the Jewish People for his uncle's action.

27. The situation of the vessel deteriorated as Captain Schröder negotiated and schemed to find them a safe haven.

28. At one point he formulated plans to wreck the ship on the British coast to force the passengers to be taken as refugees.

29. He refused to return the ship to Germany until all the passengers had been given entry to some other country.

30. US officials worked with Britain and European nations to find refuge for the travelers in Europe.

31. The ship returned to Europe, docking at Antwerp, Belgium, on June 17, 1939 with 907 passengers.

32. The United Kingdom agreed to take 288 of the passengers - 32 percent, who disembarked and traveled to the UK via other steamers.

33. After much negotiation by Schröder, the remaining 619 passengers were allowed to disembark at Antwerp; 224 were accepted by France - 25 percent, 214 by Belgium - 23.59 percent and 181 by the Netherlands - 20 percent.

34. Without any passengers, the ship returned to Hamburg.

35. The following year, after the Nazi German invasions of Belgium, France and the Netherlands in May 1940, all the Jews in those countries were at renewed risk, including the recent refugees.

36. St. Louis Captain Gustav Schröder negotiates landing permits for the passengers with Belgian officials in the Port of Antwerp.

37. By using the survival rates for Jews in various countries, Thomas and Morgan-Witts, the authors of Voyage of the Damned, estimated that 180 of the St. Louis refugees in France, 152 of those in Belgium, and 60 of those in the Netherlands survived the Holocaust.

38. Including the passengers who landed in England, of the original 936 refugees - one man died during the voyage, roughly 709 survived the war and 227 did not.

39. Later research by Scott Miller and Sarah Ogilvie of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum did an actual historical trace on the fate of each passenger.

40. They determined that 254 of those who returned to continental Europe were murdered during the Holocaust: 

A. "Of the 620 St. Louis passengers who returned to continental Europe, we determined that eighty-seven were able to emigrate before Germany invaded western Europe on May 10, 1940.

B. Two hundred fifty-four passengers in Belgium, France and the Netherlands after that date died during the Holocaust.

C. Most of these People were murdered in the killing centers of Auschwitz and Sobibór; the rest died in internment camps, in hiding or attempting to evade the Nazis.

D. Three hundred sixty-five of the 620 passengers who returned to continental Europe survived the war.

E. Of the 288 passengers sent to Britain, the vast majority were alive at war's end."


A. In order to understand this section one must first remember the reasons for desiring to seek shelter in another country.

B. Although it appears the first mention of a Nazi concentration  camps were in 1933 - further; it appears it was not until around 1941 mass murder in what became known as the Holocaust Death Camps were instigated.

C. Moreover what part was the fact the World was not at war at the time of the sailing - play in the seemingly wondrous life saving Boat Trip.

D. All of this section reeks of Psychotic Behaviour. A Psychotic will by being extra nice Lull the Person into a sense of false security. Items 1>9.

E. Once the victim believes the Psychotic is really a nice Person the Psychotic will then attempt to convince their victim they are really doing every thing to be of help to the Victim Items 10>30, then 31>33.  

F. Once achieved they will not only turn on the Person but will be nasty and in so doing blame their victim; saying it is their (victim) fault they (the Psychotic) acted like this.

G.  Items 35>40 confirm the Psychotics intentions now delivered.

H. Thus - may we consider the wondrous trip boat was only ever designed for this outcome and in so doing gain international support or sympathy for what on the surface of it may well be support of the beleaguered Jews - in reality only a continuance of that was labeled as Hitler's desire for World Supremacy by as yet. People or Institutions unknowingly created; thus every one was just Following Orders for the Common Purpose, leaving no one to take the ultimate responsibility. 

I. Leaving one to ponder "Was it from this the term Anti-Semitic  came into prominence and became a tool of psychotic domineering control and in itself was as racist as the Person making the statement was labeled.  


Common Purpose?

Section. 40. 

1. Common Purpose is a political charity using Behavioural Modification techniques.

2. Common Purpose - CP is a Charity, based in Great Britain, which creates. ‘Future Leaders’ of society.

3. CP selects individuals and, ‘trains’ them, to learn how society works, who, 'pulls the levers of power' and how - CP ‘graduates’ can use this knowledge to lead 'Outside Authority.’ 

4. Children, Teenagers and Adults have their prejudices removed.

5. Graduates; are ‘empowered’ to become ‘Leaders’ and work in ‘partnership’ with other CP graduates.

6. CP claims to have trained some 30,000 adult graduates in UK and changed the lives of some 80,000 People, including Schoolchildren and young People. 

7. But evidence shows that Common Purpose is rather more than a Charity; ‘empowering' People and communities.

8. In fact, CP is an elitist pro-EU Political Organisation working to replace democracy in the United Kingdom and worldwide, with CP chosen - ‘Elite’ leaders.

9. In truth, their hidden networks and political objectives are undermining and destroying our democratic society and are threatening ‘free will’ in Adults, Teenagers and Children.

10. Their work is funded by public money and big business, including international banks. 

11. It is important for researchers on this subject to realise that the majority of Common Purpose 'graduates' are victims, who have little if any understanding of the wider role of Common Purpose within United Kingdom society, nor of its connections to higher government, the European Union and perhaps every country in the world.

13. Drawn into CP training by a flattering invitation, or selected by their company or organisation, this recruitment is normally carried out by a previously trained CP Person - now recruiting for the cause.

A. Leaving one to consider one should always beware of strangers bearing gifts.

14. Candidates are screened and selected - or rejected by CP Advisory Board members in their area.

15. Both candidates and 'trained graduates,' will have no real understanding of Common Purpose's wider role to help achieve a political and social paradigm shift in the United Kingdom.

16. The real objective, would appear to be to replace our traditional United Kingdom democracy with the new regime of the EU super state. 

17. By blurring the boundaries between People, professions, public and private sectors, responsibility and accountability, CP encourages graduates to believe that as new selected leaders, CP graduates can work together, outside of the established political and social structures, to achieve this paradigm shift or CHANGE.

18. The so called. "Leading Outside of Authority."

19. In doing so, the allegiance of the individual becomes 're-framed' on CP colleagues and their NETWORK. 

20. Using behavioural and experiential learning techniques, the views of graduates can be remolded to conform to the new Common Purpose.

21. Most will not be aware this has happened, but we are given immediate clues in descriptions by graduates - that Common Purpose training is 'life changing,' 'disturbing, or 'unsettling.'

22. Trained and operating under the Chatham House rules of secrecy - details of discussion, those present and location are not disclosed, CP graduates come to operate in; 'their world,' of Common Purpose.

23. Mind Control Background on this site for historical information regarding manipulation of People's free will and behaviour. 

24. The term 'GRADUATE' is used deliberately so as to prevent disclosure of involvement with Common Purpose.

25. As 'MEMBERS' of CP, which is more appropriate, individuals in the public sector would have to declare their interests.

26. So strong is the Common Purpose bond, that some individuals will lie to hide information and documents considered; 'dangerous,' to the CP cause.

27. People challenging CP colleagues have been victimised and forced out of their positions. 

28. Common Purpose is linked to a host of other suspect trusts, foundations, think-tanks, quangos and so called charities.

28. DEMOS is a key example.

29. These organisations funnel political and social CHANGE policy through CP, to re-frame graduates.

30. Examples range from promotion of Diversity in every company and organisation, to Curfews for young People. 

31. Common Purpose promotes - the 'empowerment of individuals,' except where individuals challenge the activities of CP and public spending on CP.

32. These People are branded vexatious, extremist, right wing or mentally unsound. Julia Middleton, the Chief Executive of Common Purpose, praises the work of German bankers. Deutsche Bank is, of course, a major power behind Common Purpose.

33. Julia Middleton, earning circa £80,000 p.a. from her charity, is also very happy to promote the term; 'USEFUL IDIOTS' in her book. 'Beyond Authority.'

34. Are we the General Public the USEFUL IDIOTS, or are the Elitist Common Purpose Graduates? One must decide for oneself.

35. Common Purpose graduates are in cities across the United Kingdom and perhaps many others throughout the world.

36. Leaving one to realise these People, possibly colleagues or friends, are now; 're-framed' "elite leaders."

37. However overwhelmingly, the taxpayer, has paid for their CP training.


A. The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered - moved, seconded, carried and minuted in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars, cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.

B. And we should remember. ... Evil flourishes where good men do nothing.

Question. 1. Is it possible this is all true and we are all being complicit in this process and its ultimate goal?

Answer. 1.  Sadly it appears this is so - as no one it appears is able to suggest why the world is in the constant flux state of unrest.

Question. 2. No one - are you sure?

Answer. 2. Of course and thankfully so there are it appears since the United Kingdom 2016 Brexit Referendum was announced more and more People from many countries of the world who have been on the receiving end of this process are now seeking answer to questions they were previously unaware existed or perhaps did not have the courage to ask.

Question. 3. Are you aware of any such awareness?

Answer. 3. It would be reasonable to consider Professor Stanley Milgram started the process - yet was unaware of the consequences; as his life was terminated far too young for him to have realised, just what he was doing and on whose orders.

Question 4. Where do we go from here.

Answer. 4...

A. Over the past years we in the United Kingdom and the United States of America and in reality I suspect every country and their citizens in the world have become aware of the New World Order.

B. One may as indeed did I - consider this was like an Institutional Body.

C. The reality is the New World Order is perhaps no more than an Insidious and hidden in clear view Process of not only world change but World Domination - called World Government.

D. Was it not said way back in the past. "Control the Money, control the Politicians and one controls the Laws." And everyone is now following orders and works no longer for the New World Order but for the Common Purpose.     


New World Order changed to Common Purpose?

A reasonable Person's sensible commentary on the Political Environment.

Section. 41. 

The Secret Societies in control of the World.

1. Most People reading this will never have heard of Common Purpose, this is because, just like the freemasons and the mafia, it is a secret society.

2. One way they create their blanket of secrecy is by applying what they call Chatham House Rules, which basically mean that whatever happens within Common Purpose stays within Common Purpose.

A. Chatham House Rule - a rule or principle according to which information disclosed during a meeting may be reported by those present, but the source of that information may not be explicitly or implicitly identified. "the conference was held under the Chatham House Rule."

3. Just as with the mafia and the freemasons so the members of Common Purpose look after the Brotherhood in life.

4. But where they are far, far worse is that they seek to gain and then to abuse power in order to change the world.

5. On the surface Common Purpose are a political charity who offer management training courses designed so that the various sectors of society can work together better.

6. No doubt many People who have attended their courses believe this. But it is what is really going on.

7. Common Purpose activists are social engineers who want to change the world and they use Neuro Linguistic Programming to brainwash their course attendees so as to achieve this.

8. Just like a religious cult.

9. They want to divide the world up into two sorts of People, the elite - themselves who run everything and then everyone else who must do what they are told as Order Followers.

10. They want to get rid of nations and nationality - a big part of the identity that defines us as individuals and to achieve this they want to get rid of democracy and free speech, which are impediments to their cult.

11. The EU is a very important stepping stone to them achieving their objectives.

12. The scale of what they have achieved is stunning, with tens of thousands of graduates they now effectively control the Police, the Conservative Party, Education, the Civil Service, the BBC, the NHS, the Church of England, many charities and local government.


Question. 1. How do we know the New World Order has changed to Common Purpose?



1. We do not - but then perhaps we should ask ourselves; just how long has the NWO been in existence: How long have we been aware and What was before.

2. And how if at all Does Hitler and the Holocaust, with Palestine and Israel and all of the current unrest within the Muslims - fit into the picture.

3. Surely it must be said. "If a Society has to be Secret Perhaps they are up to no good for anyone in the world - otherwise they would not have to be secret."   

4.  Leaving one to consider are all of these entities part of one big family lost in the wilderness of time seeking understanding through world domination - as God in all of its forms have as yet failed to demonstrate the absolution demanded.


Common Purpose 1.

Section. 42. 

1. One of their most powerful tools to enforce their rule upon us is Political Correctness.

2. Making it socially unacceptable to challenge their dogma.

3. So if you question mass immigration you are a Racist.

4. If you voted to leave the EU you are a Stupid Bigot.

5. If you object to the massive scale of rape of white Children by Muslims across Britain you are like Hitler.

6. The BBC are one of the main Common Purpose propaganda mouthpiece and you see this all the time in all their output.

7. Their current affairs and news, their “factual” programming, their soap operas, their comedy, everything.

8. Every time you listen to or watch the BBC you are being brainwashed.

9. Presenters who do not toe the Common Purpose line have gone, replaced by Social Justice Warriors who do not realise that they are just useful idiots.


1. Is it possible Poetical Correctness was the forerunner to New World Order. Or another way of saying Order Followers.

2. In addition - is it possible the freedom of expression we have all felt with the creation of the Internet and the many social media outlets is gradually being eroded from the connectedness to many People in other countries and different way of life could never have dreamed possible in days gone by; with the likes of possibly Facebook having a content police division; that makes it appear for Person of foreign decent that has possibly entered the United Kingdom and other countries under the radar of the law are now supported by their activity of Child Marriages or Child abuse being alright and with the perpetrator being sent back to their Family as they are needed and any one that speaks out against such dismissal of the host country law and fundamental rights of a Nations People. Is suppressed.

3. Moreover to this are such companies forgetting the fundamental rule of Business the customer is the only Person in the business of importance and all of the business activity whether openly observed or under the radar - are about providing Jobs for their employees and profits for the share holders.

4. Furthermore. The  Gerald Ratner business style activity can very quickly take the sparkle off the diamonds - otherwise known as profit.  


Common Purpose 2.

Section. 43. 


Common Purpose 3.

Section. 44. 

1. The BBC, because of this, is in constant and blatant breach of its charter.

2. But this does not matter because all the checks and balances in place to control the BBC and to ensure neutrality have been taken over by Common Purpose.

3. The other main propaganda tool is Education.


A. Common Purpose use the Education system to ensure that our Children leave school brainwashed with their dogma and at the same time Erases Bright Minded Students Scientific Inquiry desires.

B. Should we not demand to know just who and why someone appears to be pulling all of the strings or Giving The Orders that would normally be regarded as Common Decency.  


Common Purpose 4.

Section. 45. 

1. Right thinking People think that cutting a Child’s Genitals with a razor is unacceptable, but to Common Purpose Female Genital Mutilation is just cultural enrichment that we must learn to accept.

2. So the Common Purpose police do nothing to enforce the British law.

3. Yet leave bacon near a Mosque and the full might of the law will be applied until you are in prison.

4. Because that is a “hate” crime, whilst Female Genital Mutilation is obviously not.


A. Which is tantamount to saying to another Person. “You have to believe in god just because I do.”

B. For me history - if we are to believe what is written, clearly, says and the Child Abuse by the catholic priests and Atrocities in the name of Allah along with the Jewish/Muslim race of Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation; without any anaesthesia - confirms.

C. God in all of its forms if ever such an entity existed is the nastiest creation since the earth was formed and large aggressive creatures were created.

D. I prefer to call all gods - Psychotic Mankind Control Freaks. Who will stop at nothing to get their own psychotic way here on Earth.

E. Should we not stand back and take a wider perspective of this activity and ask; "is everyone just Obediently Following Orders," yet do not know what the orders really are and if so "who is giving the orders," or as this process has been going on for so long - does any one really know what they are doing and why.


Common Purpose 5.

Section. 46. 

1. David Cameron is Common Purpose, as are much of the Conservative Party - hence they are often called Red Tories now, which explains a lot.

2. Starting with telling us packs of lies about Brexit.

3. Lies that were reinforced by the BBC and all the other Common Purpose controlled organisations.

4. It explains why 40% of GDP is still in the public sector.

5. It explains why an innocent slip up of speech can get an MP suspended.

6. It explains why Conservative fiscal policy now punishes personal financial achievement so much.

7. And it explains why non EU immigration is sustained at such massive levels.

8. Common Purpose tried to massively censor free speech in Britain with the Leveson Inquiry.

9. Fortunately, in one of the most important pieces of journalism in our time, the Daily Mail blew the lid on what was going on and we were saved. Click here for the Article. 

10. Common Purpose graduates are expected to disobey the orders of their own Organisation where these conflict with Common Purpose dogma and directives.

11. Not only that they are expected to root out all non Common Purpose thinking in their Organisation, which they call “silos.”

12. So we end up with Christian religions that are not Christian, a criminal justice system that blatantly ignores criminals, an education system that puts politically correct dogma ahead of real knowledge and critical thinking, a national broadcaster that carpet bombs us with propaganda and a government that does not answer to democracy.

13. You might wonder who pays for Common Purpose.

14. The answer is we all do.

15. The police can send their officers on “training,” to be brainwashed instead of using the money to patrol our streets - click here to see one example.

16. The NHS can spend on Common Purpose training instead of on cancer drugs, your local school will pay to indoctrinate its staff instead of buying books.

17. And the 0.7% of British GDP that is spent on foreign aid, a huge chunk of that is spent by the government - Common Purpose controlled, to run Common Purpose courses around the world.

18. You might ask what we can do about this evil.

19. The only real answer is to purge every single Common Purpose graduate from the public sector.

20. They must go because they are brainwashed, they have been programmed, they are like members of religious cults, the evil is embedded inside them.


A. Whether one works in the Political establishment or the international media - anything that can mean in their private life they have not been whiter that white; or have been up to Subversive or Deviant activity, someone as a subservient  Order Follower - will be logging the information in order to pass it up the line; they have no idea as to where it goes and what it is used for. 

B. Ultimately others in a Secret Society and at a higher Degree of the secrets that underpin Common Purpose - having received this negative information, the now Victim would not want to be made public, will use this negative information as a lever to garner the outcome desired in Order to destroy the United Kingdom and in so doing everything we believe to be good - not only in this country. But for every country in the world.

C. And is the reason why our Politicians and Courts appear to be for Criminal Activity and not against. Therefor are just Following Orders for Common Purpose. That is intended to sound - as if it is. "For the People and the Country."


Common Purpose 6.

Section. 47. 

To find out more about Common Purpose and to confirm this article visit:

We are all in this together.

Common Purpose Exposed.

Stop Common Purpose.

Common Purpose (CP)

An hidden ever expanding virus in our government, News media, schools and Universities.

1. Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 18,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose is largely unknown to the general public.

2. It recruits and trains “leaders,” to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example.

3. Common Purpose is identifying leaders for recruitment in all levels of our government to assume power when our nation is replaced by the European Union, in what they call; “the post democratic society.”

4. They are learning to rule without regard to democracy and will bring the EU police state home to every one of us.

5. Common Purpose is also the glue that enables fraud to be committed across these government departments to reward pro European local politicians.

6. Corrupt deals are enabled that put property or cash into their pockets by embezzling public assets.

7. It has members in the NHS, BBC, the Police, the Legal Profession, the Church, many of Britain’s 7,000 quangos, local councils, the Civil Service, Government Ministries, Parliament and it controls many RDA’s - Regional Development Agencies.

8. It must be considered Common Purpose has recruits in all of the worlds many secret societies.

9. Cressida Dick is the Common Purpose senior police officer who authorised the; “Shoot to kill” policy, without reference to Parliament, the law or the British Constitution.

10. Jean de Menezes was one of the innocents who died as a result.

11. Her shoot to kill policy still stands today.

12. Common Purpose trained Janet Paraskeva, the Law Society’s Chief Executive Officer.

13. Surprising numbers of lawyers are Common Purpose members.

14. It is no coincidence that justice is more expensive, more flawed and more corrupt.

15. And no surprise the courts refused to uphold the law, when a challenge was made to the signing of the six EU treaties, which illegally abolish Britain’s sovereignty.

16. Common Purpose is backed by John Prescott’s. “Office of the Deputy Prime Minister” - ODPM and its notional Chief Executive is Julia Middleton. The Head of the Civil Service Commission is a member.

17. Leaving one to question is the. Permanente Government Permanente/Secretary of the Untied Kingdom also a member. 

18. It is close to controlling Plymouth City Council, where is has subverted the democratic process.

19. Local People cannot get the corrupt activities of Common Purpose published, because the editors of local papers are recruits of Common Purpose and refuse to let journalists publish the articles.

20. Common Purpose started in 1985; in the 1990’s, with its members’ cross departmental influence, it was involved with what then became the disastrous New Millennium Dome Company and the squandering of £800 million; it appears £300 million of this was diverted into the web of quangos set up by Common Purpose.

21. There is a fraud case over this, stalled in the courts thanks to Common Purpose’s influence in the legal profession.

22. Over £100 million from the Public Purse money has been spent on Common Purpose courses alone and it has been hidden from the public and members names are a guarded secret.

23. It charges substantial figures for its courses.

24. Matrix for example costs £3,950 plus VAT and courses for the high flying ‘leader,’ can be as much as £9,950 plus VAT.

25. This money is from the public purse, paid by government departments financing senior staff to become agents for Common Purpose, instead of loyal to their own jobs.

26. Common Purpose - Ltd by guarantee, No. 2832875 is registered as charity No. 1023384. It describes itself as being involved in Adult education.

27. Given it preys on the rich and powerful, charges expensive fees and its aims are clearly power and control, its charity status appear to have unsavory implications and should be revoked.

Conclusion. Everything relating to the kidology or the process of keeping the populations subservient in any country is clearly explained in the opening words of this section. "We are all in this together." However the reality may be better expressed as Individuals or even a country - we have never been more alone if we all become. "Common Purpose Order Followers." As the Process is as the history books that remain tell us. "Divide and Conquer" is the rule.


Common Purpose 7.

Section. 48. 

Common Purpose Subjects.

1. Potential Common Purpose subjects are selected for training.

2. On the bases they are susceptible to being converted; are they in the right job, with the right colleagues and friends.

3. Do they have power, influence and the control of money.

4. If the candidate has some, or all of these key attributes, then the local Common Purpose Advisory Board decides if they can do the course.

5. Common Purpose – training our future EU rulers.

6. Trained leaders are encouraged to act as a network, enable other members,’ plans and have meetings under the so called Chatham House rules.

7. This effectively means their statements are not attributable to them, nor can attendees reveal information heard at a Common Purpose meeting.

8. Council Officers are having secret meetings with, for example, property developer Common Purpose friends.

Conclusion. Item 7 appears to be a clear indication of the all empowering of Order Followers.


Common Purpose 8.

Section. 49. 

No agendas and No minutes.

1. Common Purpose Graduates from the public quangos sectors such as the Regional Development Agencies attend and have the power to award large sums of public money to projects.

2. It is the worst national example of cronyism, closed contract bids, fraud and corruption.

3. And unseen to the general public.

4. Common Purpose undermines traditionally effective and efficient government departments with an overwhelming influx of new language, political correctness and management initiatives.

5. The talk is of empowering communities, vision, worklessness, mainstreaming - sucking EU money into a project to sustain it, community empowerment, working partnership, regeneration and celebrating diversity etc etc.

Conclusion.  How can a Meeting of PUBLIC Employees ever have the validity of true Common Purpose by not having minutes. Secret Minutes may well be easier to accept.


Common Purpose 9.

Section. 50. 

 Change and Re-Organisation.

1. Documents appear about change and reorganisation.

2. As CP “leaders” become more senior, they employ countless managers and bureaucrats.

3. In time confusion rules and things do not seem to work properly.

4. Management decisions are made that seem stupidly destructive.

5. The organisation’s performance becomes sluggish.

6. Undermining the NHS is Common Purpose’s biggest success so far, with bureaucrats outnumbering hospital staff three to one.

7. David Cameron, who is pro Europe, uses the language of Common Purpose; he has appointed Ken Clarke, the most committed of the pro Europeans, in charge of his “Democracy Taskforce;” rather like putting the cat in charge of the safety of mice.

8. Common Purpose specifically targets Children from the age of 13 and more recently younger, for special leadership and citizenship training.

9. Yes, it is active in schools and again the average Parent has no idea.

10. People have contacted awareness Groups to speak of their experiences with Common Purpose.

11. A common theme is its all sweetness and light, until you fail to follow the direction set by the Common Purpose leadership.


A. One does not require the education status of a professor in history or physics to observe. If a Person in so weak willed as to follow a lifestyle activity that others can negatively use against them to become traitors to their own country - that this process has to have a seed of witting or unwitting status from Parents.

B. That brought their Children into the world to ensure they never suffered the same as they; yet in the final analyses failed to see they made them into Common Purpose Order Followers.

C. Leaving one to ponder from were does the orders really originate and who creates them.


Common Purpose 10.

Section. 51. 

Then interesting things happen.

1. Ladies in particular have been bullied at work, some have lost their jobs, some have become paranoid and depressed at the pressure from People ganging up on them.

2. A typical story is a husband describing the decline in his wife from the time she becomes a Common Purpose graduate.

3. Loss of sparkle, enthusiasm, anxious, ‘changed’ and she initiated a divorce.

4. Other Common Purpose People lie when they are challenged as to their involvement.

5. Common Purpose candidates are given a two day residential course in which they are ‘trained;’ in a closed residential environment, such as a small hotel.

6. They are encouraged to reveal personal information about themselves, such as their likes, dislikes, ambitions and dreams.

7. Discussions are then controlled by the course leaders.

8. Some participants have likened this to Delphi technique or the application of group psychology such as Cognitive Dissonance or brainwashing.

9. If you suspect Common Purpose is active in your organization, or see a pattern of incredibly bad decisions, money being wasted, notice bullying, fraud, or threats, note the names of those involved - over a thousand have been CP practitioners have been located.

10. Publishing the truth about Common Purpose as widely possible may well have a positive impact on the understanding of the way the United Kingdom or other countries are being run down - into what may well be oblivion.

Conclusion.  When a Person is encouraged to reveal personal information about themselves, such as their likes, dislikes, ambitions, dreams and aspirations. There can only be two possible outcomes or legitimate reason for a third party knowing such intimate information.

1.  For use in a therapeutic application designed for the Person to benefit and never the holder of the information.

2. Used to  create an ever increasing long-term Profile or Dossier - that later will be used against them in order for them to confirm they are Common Purpose Order Followers; by carrying out activities within their organisation or country that may well if the law was able, be construed as Treason.


Common Purpose 11.

Section. 52. 


1.  Subversion and deceit at work with a Common Purpose to destroy the United Kingdom, all or many other countries and establish the EU.

2. EU funding is used as the fuel to power the set up of EU government in countries and as the fuel for fraud and corruption.

3. Once a country and businesses; ‘suck on’ EU funds, they are effectively bought.

4. By this means the EU can control businesses, regions and Countries.

5. Take a few UK examples. £2m plus of EU structural funds is sunk into developing a film studio in Cornwall.

6. After 2 years there is found to be no proper studio, no accounts and no funds.

7. Has there been an investigation?

8. Yes but with no visible result.

9. The only local Organisation with responsibility and supposedly accountability for the EU funds is the GOSW. GRANTMAKERS of Oregon and Southwest Washington.

10. And when challenged they hide behind the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, itself the centre for all things EU.

Conclusion.  Leaving us to consider as we started. "Nothing is what is Appears or Seems." 


Common Purpose 12.

Section. 53. 

The EU plan has been Very Simple and Very Clever.

1. First set up via the traitors within United Kingdom national government the Regional Development Agencies.

2. These were designed to be smooth as silk and sweet as honey – to do all things good e.g. regeneration, helping communities, helping business, innovation, entrepreneurship etc etc.

3. Next load the honey trap with large amounts of money so that People, organisations are attracted to the honey pot.

4. As more People are attracted, increase the powers of the Regional Development Agencies to include planning powers and input.

5. Make it compulsory for City Councils, County Councils and District Councils to consult them and then their power increases further.

6. And with planning powers they can get their organisational snouts into virtually every walk of life.

7. Meanwhile; ‘bring the government to the People,’ by setting up the Regional Government Offices – remembering Regional = EU.

8. The Government Offices now get increasing powers to interfere in everything and especially local and strategic planning, because almost nothing gets done, or built without going through the planning process.

9. Make consultation with the Government Offices compulsory.

10. Now the clever bit. In the background the traitors now work to introduce the Regional Assemblies.

11. At first un-elected and informal, so as to allay fears and ease doubts as to their true purpose.

12. Then the ‘behind the scenes traitors,’ start to work to make them elected using large amounts of United Kingdom public money and EU funds.

13. The process will use anybody it can to sweeten the pill.


A. This section allows us to see - for generations before the creation of the Eu and since; how we have all been duped into believing - all we are told is good for us.

B. Whist at the same time we the public have not been able to observe - with Social Media having played its part in what is termed as Divide and Conquer.

C. With many members of the public participants making comments and feeling they are making their point; where the reality is; all is not as it appears or seems - as no one in authority takes any notice; as they are now controlled by Common Purpose rules and thus are blind Order followers.


Common Purpose 13.

Section. 54. 

The Church for Instance.

1. What friendly vicar would help set up a devious political con.

2. You can trust us they say.

3. So although one may find it interesting that the many Bishops, including the then Bishop of Exeter, worked so hard to help set up and implement the SW Regional Assembly for example, without asking. "Why," would the Church require to be involved with processes - that are clearly of a government nature.

4. Since all of these bodies, that is the Government Offices of the Regions, the Regional Assemblies and the Regional Development Agencies are accountable to the Office Deputy Prime Minster, it is quickly evident that the real plan has been to set up a parallel EU government structure in the United Kingdom - thus nothing to do with the Church.


A. Whilst one is obliged to respect a Persons fundamental right to not only believe in any of the 4500 - plus or minus, Gods, there are or have been created, but also pray for their or loved ones ill health to be restored as often as is required.

B. One also has to accept the reverse is also true - for those that are not at all, or not quite certain. God in any form has ever existed.

C. As definitive proof of all of these factors appears to be seriously lacking in the appearance of God or Jesus as saviors and Satan and the Devil only spoken of as a threat; never truly demonstrating their presence - must only be recognised as a Personal Opinion one has a right too.

D. Yet - others may not desire to have the existence of any God lectured to them on so many social media posting boards. With the words "You must believe." or similar.  

E. Or has it been securely demonstrated such an all powerful God will or has ever saved the world or saved any given Person - other than in the Mind of People in ancient past days who used others lack of knowledge or emotion stability - in order to control or dominate.

F. In addition; where is the Common Purpose of the church - namely the Vatican; being the richest business in the world; yet it appears, does nothing or very little with the funds donated by the very People that worship God.

G. Yet, it appears none of the funds ever appear to be returned to the congregation of any given church  - when the property of the churches; the church buildings, are falling into such disrepair, there are often times they have to be abandoned.   


Common Purpose 14.

Section. 55. 

Set up by Deceit and Deception.

1. By making sure that these bodies have the ability to use massive amounts of funding and staff, they can now start to run amok over our traditional democratic structure of local government.

2. The EU grants and funding keeps pouring in.

3. Take the £320m of Objective One in Cornwall.

4. One may include in this Southend on Sea Option 1 2 and 3. Where even to an untrained eye it is rather easy to observe the outcome for Southend on Sea was not as the Options intended.  Southend on Sea Option: 1, 2 and 3.

5. Nobody really knows where that money was spent, except that it was frittered away in remarkably small sums £500,00 and £150,000 here, £60,000 there etc etc.

6. By this means and particularly with minimal proper accounting and probity checks, the money reaches back pockets, favoured consultants and the dishonest.

7. The breeding ground for fraud and corruption has been created and not surprisingly fraud and corruption begin to run rife.

8. With it comes the added nastiness of threats, intimidation and bullying of those who hold up their hand and say look this is illegal.

Conclusion. One surely has to consider just how deep the cut of this form of corruption actually goes and how much of the United Kingdoms current debt could have been avoided had this process of the eu not been in place.


Common Purpose 15.

Section. 56. 

Congressional Directorate.

1. That Accidentally Predicted the Future

2. This grim nightmarish, tyrannical, vision of the world in years to come is looking more plausible all the time. It is of the future that is now is, at the very least,

3. 2016 has been and 2017 is not looking much better.

4. A moronic, narcissistic, thin-skinned fraud is under circumstances that seem sketchier and sketchier by the day and it is getting harder all the time for the right and the left to find any common ground.

5. Who could have seen this coming? Or is it a schlocky exploitation- thriller that happens to be set in the reality of 2017.

6. The vision of 2017 is perhaps of in War waged between the Congressional Directorate a band of elected rebels.

7. Somewhere in the last free town or city.

8. A nightmarish, war- torn world ruled by a tyrannical government regime and populated almost exclusively by suited, chauvinistic creeps trying to grab their share of the worlds spoils or control by Common Purpose.

9. Confounding vague. purposely designed to lay out the rules of universe to make things more confusing.

10. The government - is the Congressional Directorate that insidiously rose to power after using; "an experiment in Blindly following Orders under the derivative named Red Ribbon - a survey; intended to find out "what" the citizens of any given town or city wanted to know more about.


A. Under the directive of Order Following and Common Purpose.

B. It would be very difficult if such a survey was carried out; for although it may well have had strict instructions from the electorate - nothing would ever get done.

C. As no one knew who to take the orders from, or who to give the orders too and if the orders had validation.

D. Thereby creating the understanding - no one knew what to do or why.


Section 57. 

Question. 1. It is fairly clear from this mass of information the World is either in or heading for some form of disaster how can we summarize this in order to bring it to a conclusion?

Answer. 2.

A. Yes I feel that is a fair consideration.

B. I do have to wonder if the People Behind Common Purpose, its predecessor New World Order and indeed we must not exclude; Professor Stanley Milgram - for was it not he that unwittingly or was it on purpose reveled the possibility. People could be controlled in such a manner as they thought it was the correct and only way forward.

C. Thus as a result were just as designed - a body of Order Followers. who must be considered...  


Responsible not Guilty.

Quote Talking Cures: The Life we lead is 100% what happens to us first-hand and 100% how we react to it - this includes all illness.

Section 58. 

Question. 1.  “Is that saying that we are; “responsible” for our actions/reactions at all times?


1. Responsible not Guilty – for at conception we are like a new computer that is of no value unless it has programs loaded onto it. And of no personal value unless it has our data added.

2. Thus; at any and every moment in time our data is one hundred per cent complete and on a twenty four hour minute by minute bases, updated.

3. Therefore; when new information is delivered to us, quicker than the speed of the fastest computer or the speed of light – we, without realising; assess the information, store it and thereafter react to it accordingly.

4. It is by this process we make decisions – thus, we never ever make a mistake; as it is, based on the information to hand and past stored information, the correct thing to do at that Moment in time.

5. The outcome of all of this - on a minute by minute updated bases, is always the 100% we run our life by and it must figure; React too - this, now stored information is and can only be at; 100% maxim capacity.

6. In other words the stored information is our 100% Master and we are mere slaves and - 100% React to it.

7. Without this process. New information would always be just that and be rather like taking a Rural Born Fox family into a large field and leaving them in them middle - that is where it will stay; as it is unable to process the new information against stored memory history and make a decision as to how to React to it.

Conclusion. Being responsible or guilty for ones own created actions and lifestyle activities - is not the same as being an Order follower and have no option but to blindly follow orders from a superior; as often or not - one would have a history of being shouted down and left with a fearsome belief; if one did not follow the orders given by a superior, knowing the Person who gave the orders would always have a way of blaming the follower if there was any legal or moral ramifications.   


Joining Milgram's dots.

Section 59. 

Question. 1. How may we bring together all the information relating to Professor Stanley Milgram, his experiments in Obedience, how and if at all they are connected to. New World Order, Common Purpose and as it appears to suggest - they all appear to Link to Religion?

Answer. 1...

A.  Yes of course... There are many factors more than contained in this expose'...

B. Moreover; they are not necessarily listed in a logical order as there is no real logical order - that appears to be the point of Professor Stanley Milgram's study. to Create Confusion.

Question. 2. Before you start your explanation. What is the point of creating confusion; in his willing participants, within the study?

Answer. 2. I would almost guarantee the good Professor did not have a clue about the long-term consequences of creating such Confusion - no more than he would have known about or even considered the possibility; Confusion is the only Emotion that exists within a Mind that during life is of any real and one might add, tangible value.

Question. 3. Before we venture any further - please explain that last comment; as it makes no sense at all, let alone. "Common Sense?"

Answer. 3...

A.  Yes - like Perception is the only Emotion we have at our disposal whilst we are in Mothers Womb.

B. Confusion is perhaps the only Emotion - all others are but symptoms of a reaction to a stimulus that created Confusion.  

C. Confusion is the tool we use to make sense of the mass of information that enters our: Eyes, Ears and Skin - on a daily basses.

D. And as a response make an instant - most times, decision as to what our course of action is to be - based on the information received.

E. This we cannot do without the Emotion of Confusion.

Question. 4...

A. Appears to have told me about it nicely - but surely did not answer my question?...

B. "What are the long-term consequences of creating such Confusion?"

Answer. 4.

A. When a Person - namely a Child is Traumatised it creates a Confusion; in order to put the contents of the Trauma into a Logical Sequential order, in other words make sense of the trauma.

B. When such times as the Confusion is unable to achieve this - the only response is illness.

C. Therefore it follows - if one creates Confusion in the manner described in Professor Stanley Milgram's experiment on Obedience; that created, not only Confusion, but evoked from the memory store. Information still unresolved from the Persons Childhood - making the long-term outcome of mysterious illnesses. That will only defy any treatments.  

Question. 5. May we return to pre question 3?

Answer. 5... Whilst we are able to explore the many facets leading from Stanley Milgram's Experiment on obedience, that under the circumstances have to be explored first - it is only leading us to a conclusion as perhaps unpalatable; as having to lifetime be Obedient to Orders, that we feel are not always in our best interest.   

A. Therefore. The working classes are caught in the vicious trap of self interest or the requirement to relieve Anxiety.

B. Where the drive for their Daily bread is far more important than unity.

C. One might be minded to call it; "survival," instead of self-interest. 

D. Elites are made up of People drawn to power.

E. When the underdogs become the controlling dogs.

F. Because People tend to mix with those who are like them, the attraction to power is concentrated by a form of natural selection.

G. Where; The elites rule. Because they are united in their elitism.

H. The Working class is used to defend the Elite from accountability.

I. Where they stand in front of their preferred elite in order to protect them from law.


1.  Elite always control resources the way richest lead society towards extractive institutions - you can take that to the Bank.

2. Elite never consider any common man to be a part of their business.

K. The great are only great because we are on our knees. "Let us rise." Julius Cesar.

L. I think inherent Human dilemma is that those of us who use the escape velocity to jump to higher orbit of elitism, are seduced by the wealth and power and become part of the problem not the solution.

M. This is how it has always been.

N. That is why socialists and communists always complain.


Conclusion 1.

Section 60. 

Question. 1. Have we really linked all of this together regarding Professor Stanley Milgram's position in history? Or have we missed a serious missing link?

Answer. 1.  Yes we are missing a very important link one Professor Stanley Milgram ascribed too.

Question 2. Are you suggesting he is Guilty for many of the worlds current atrocities?

Answer. 2.  No not at all for the reality is he was a victim of his own experiments and an Obedient Order Follower not aware of the consequences of the Orders he had been given and more importantly who had given them in the very first instance.

Question. 3. Does that mean there is someone who is guilty? 

Answer. 3. Not at all and the possibility exists no one has ever been guilty only responsible for their actions as followers of and Obedient to Orders.


Conclusion 2.

Section 61. 

Question. 1. Is there a suggestion all of Professor Stanley Milgram's experiments in Obedience can be somewhat simply explained?

Answer. 1...

A. Simply is as it suggest, is rather too simplistic - as the web of intrigue streams far wider and cuts much deeper than one could ever imagine and may well be at the heart of why the entire world is in such turmoil at this moment in 2017.

B. All of the worlds atrocities including the creation of all Gods come under the guise of this banner and is. "Why the elites appear to rule."

C. Jews and Muslims are all from the same family only with the desire to dominate the other side of the family sad part is they are destroying the world in their family feud.

D. Judaism Islam and indeed one might be minded to include Christianity and Catholicism as well as ALL so called Religions are Satanic like Cults and nothing to do with Religion; as a peaceful desire, at all.

E. Rather like a Secret Society where every one follows orders but no one knows in reality - what the orders are and who gives them.

F. In simple terms this may well be referred to as a demonstration of the Soul. Yet is only an expression of a dream state.

G. Thus like heaven the Soul does not exist.

H. In more complex terms. The Soul is part of the illusion set up for control by Psychotic Minded People that Included: God, Jesus, Satan, The Devil and the Holy Ghost, Allah and Mohammed who through the dream like state called religion controlled the masses in a secret manner - perhaps to draw attention to lost tribes of Jews and others deposed by greed and control of a Satanic Cult like People who created Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation as a sign for controlled People like the Jews; to never forget the Pain of being homeless.

Question. 2. Are you able to suggest more clearly how did this all came about?

Answer. 2...

A. The reality is this is way beyond my pay grade - thus we are only able to look at the evidence that is available to us and use our own Integrity and Wisdom to interpret it and respect others opinions - especially if they appear to contradict our own.

B. We could suggest Pakistan - that is in turmoil; is at the heart of the worlds problems and may have a degree of substance to it - however this is grossly unfair as it appears the entire world is in turmoil. Therefore we have to consider the possibility the answer lies buried in history. 

C. Although as you know already. I am passionate about and against the negative part the United Kingdom played in creation of Pakistan from India at Partition.

D. Thus I feel for Pakistan, India and the entire world - as it now appears to now be controlled by Jews in the same fashion as the creation of Pakistan. Being Jews and Muslims are a part of the same family of lost tribes.

E. I am therefore very mindful of the part History plays as to why Pakistan has never been able to recover or create a secure independent identity of its own.

Question. 3. We appear to be drifting away from the debate at hand?

Answer. 3.  Sadly this is so - surely if we take the main thrust of this paper is Obedience and Professor Stanley Milgram never was able to come to a satisfactory conclusion; then there is something outside of his knowledge or the Scientific Inquiry of his day, that is required to be answered.

Question. 4. It appears we are to venture back in history to find the answers we seek? 

Answer. 4. Yes this is so but to be sure our findings are of  a balanced nature - may we accept. Nothing in History is what it Appeared or Seems today. 

Question. 5. How far back do we have to travers?

Answer. 5.  Let us use a list of countries by first Human Settlement as known by Archeology Scientists.  

A. Though fossils of hominids have been found dating back millions of years, the earliest known Homo sapiens remains are considered to be the bones of five individuals found at Jebel Irhood, in present day Morocco.

B. The discovery of these fossils pushes back the oldest fossil evidence of the homo sapiens by 300,000 years.

C. The previous oldest Homo sapiens remains came from Omo Kibish, in Ethiopia and date to 195,000 years ago.

D. From this area, Humans spread out to cover all continents except Antarctica by 14,000 BP.

E. According to a recent theory, Humans may have crossed over into the Arabian Peninsula as early as 125,000 years ago.

F. From the Middle East, migration continued into India around 70,000 years ago and Southeast Asia shortly after.

G. Settlers could have crossed over to Australia and New Guinea – that were united as one continent (Sundaland and Sahul) at the time due to lower sea levels – as early as 55,000 years ago.

H. Migration into Europe took somewhat longer to occur; the first definite evidence of Human settlement on this continent has been discovered in southern Italy and dates back 43-45,000 years.

I. Settlement of Europe may have occurred as early as 45,000 years ago, according to genetic research.

J. The Americas were populated by Humans at least as early as 14,800 years ago, though there is great uncertainty about the exact time and manner in which the Americas were populated.

K. More remote parts of the world, like Iceland, New Zealand and Madagascar were not populated until the historic era.

Question. 6. Interesting but where does this fit into our paper?

Answer. 6. The following table shows any geographical region at some point defined as a country – not necessarily a modern-day sovereign state – or any geographically distinct area such as an island, with the date of the first known or Hypothesised-Guessed Human settlement.

Dates are, unless specifically stated, approximate.

A. Settlements are not necessarily continuous; settled areas in some cases become depopulated due to environmental conditions, such as glacial periods or the volcanic eruption of Mt Toba 74,000 years ago.

1. Toba Lake in northern Sumatra is the world's largest active volcanic caldera.

2. The volcanic eruption that resulted in Lake Toba (100 x 30 km) 74,000 years ago, is known to have been by far the biggest eruption of the last 2 million years.

3. Where applicable, information is also given on the exact location where the settlement was discovered and further information about the discovery.

4. Some dates are based on genetic research - mitochondrial, or matrilinear DNA and not on archaeological finds.

A. Morocco. 300.000 Before the Present. Jebel Irhood - Anatomically modern Human remains of five individuals dated 300,000 years old - making them the oldest remains ever found.

B. Ethiopia. 195.000 BP. Omo Kibish Formation - The Omo remains found in 1967 near the Ethiopian Kibish Mountains, have been dated as CA. 195.000 Years old.

C. Sudan. 140.000-160.000 BP. Singa - Anatomically modern Human remains discovered in 1924 with rare temporal bone pathology. 

D. United Arab Emirates. 155.000 BP - Jebel Faya - Stone tools made by Anatomically Modern Humans.

E. South Africa. 125.000 BP Klasies River Caves - Remains found in the Klasies River Caves in the Eastern Cape province of South Africa show signs of Human Hinting, There is some debate as to whether these remains represent Anatomically Modern Human.

F. Libya. 50,000-180.000 BP. Haua Fteah - Fragments of two mandibles discovered 1953. 

G. Israel. 100,000. Skhul - Quafzeh - Discovered in 1929 and 1935, remains exhibit a mix of archaic and modern traits and may represent an early migration from Africa that died out some 80,000 years ago.

H. Oman. 75,000-125,00 BP. Abut. -  Tools found in the Dohfar Govornate correspond with African objects from the so-called "Nubian complex" taken from 75 125 BP  according to archaeologist Geoffrey I Rose; said Human settlements spread East from Africa across the Arabian Peninsula.

I. Democratic Republic of the Congo. 90,000 BP - Kantanda Upper Kanliki River.    Semliki Harpoon heads carved from stone. 

J. India. 70,080 BP.  Jwallpuram Andhra Pradesh - Recent finds of stone tools in Douala before and after the Toba super eruption it may have been made by modern humans - but this is disputed

K. Philippines. 67,000 BP. Callao Cave - Archeologist, Dr David Mijares with Dr Phil Piper found bones in a cave near Periblanca, Cagayan in 2010 have been date as being 67, 000 years old, its the earliest Human Fossil ever found in the Asia-Pacific.

L. Egypt. 50,000-80,000 BP. Taramasa Hill - Skeleton of an 8-10 year old Child discovered in 1994.

M. Taiwan. 50,000 BP. Chihshan Rock Site -  Chipped Stone Tool similar to those of the Changpin Culture on the east coast.

N. Brazil. 41,000-56,000 BP. Pedra Furada - Charcoal from the oldest layers dated at 41,000-56,000 BP found.

O. Australia. 48,000 BP. Devils Lair - The oldest Human Skeletal remains are at the 40,000 year old lake Mungo remains in New South Wales, but Human ornaments discovered at Devils Lair in Western Australia have been dated to 48,000 BP. Ochre fragments at Malakunarja in Northern Territory are dated at 45,000 BP.   

P. Japan. 47,000. BP. Lake Nojin - Genetic research indicates arrival of Humans in Japan by 37,000 BP Archeological remains at the Telegahana Paleolithic site at lake Nojin have been dated as early as 47,00 BP.  

Q. Laos. 47,000 BP. Tam Pa Ling Cave. In 2009  an ancient skull was recovered from a cave in the Annamite Mountains in northern Laos which is at least 46,000 years old, making it the oldest modern human fossil found to date in south east Asia.

R. Borneo. 34,000-46,000 BP. - Malaysia Niah Cave - A Human skull in Sarawak, Borneo. Archaeologists have claimed a much earlier date for stone tools found in the Mansuli valley, near Lahad Datu in Sabah, but precise dating analysis has not yet been published.

S. Greece. 45,000 BP. Mount Parnassus - Geneticist Bryan Sykes identifies; 'Ursula,' as the first of The Seven Daughters of Eve and the carrier of the mitochondrial haplogroup U. This hypothetical Woman moved between the mountain caves and the coast of Greece and based on genetic research represent the first Human settlement of Europe.

T. Italy. 43,000 - 45,000. Grotto del Cavallo, Apulia - Two Baby teeth discovered in Apulia in 1964 are the earliest Modern Human remains yet found in Europe. 

U. Indonesia. 45,000. BP.  Early Humans travelled by sea and spread from mainland Asia to New Guinea and Australia.

V. United Kingdom.  41,500 - 42,000 BP. Kent's Caverns - Human Jaw fragments found. Torquay Devon 1927.


Conclusion 3.

Section 62. 

Question. 1.  So tell me how does all this link to Milgram?

Answer. 1...

A.  First may we accept my interest was deepened when I observed Milgram made the point about the Holocaust even though he was born and raised in America.

B. Yet he apparently made no real attempt to establish the foundation for the Holocaust and then to follow back in time to confirm his understandings or may we say misunderstandings.

C. One - the foundation for the Holocaust; if we dare say, that it is missing from his understandings as indeed it is missing from the research I have carried out to establish the foundation for the entire paper.

D. Since time began the possibility exists Mankind's Body chemistry - the creator of our evolutionary change, perhaps aggravated by the Fear - created as the world as it always made alterations through Volcanic and Seismic activity; has imploded into Mankind and the resulting Anxiety of now living in a colder/hotter climate with insufficient food to sustain life that has to be relieved.

E. That brought about the protection of ones territory and worse the requirement as the Grass is greener on the other side of the fence - thinking.

F. That lead to the relief of Anxiety - can only be achieved by the encroachment of another's land, property and the acquisition of the as yet hidden intrinsic values of a country.       


Homelessness Wandering Lost Tribes.

Section 63. 

Question. 1. How have we ended up from an Experiment on Obedience to this?

Answer. 1.  Because there is a most serious possibility the process of Obedience to Orders given and received - started as the heading suggests.

Question. 2. But how does that connect the heading of this section to the 1960 Experiments on Obedience?

Answer. 3...

A. The answer - I am content to accept there may well be more complex reasons than suggested in this explanation that Professor Stanley Milgram was either blind too; or as an Order Follower himself, only carrying out the instructions that emanated from many degrees of importance higher than he may not even have known existed; thus is open to expansion.

B. It surely does not require much of a thinking process to work out the damage the lost tribes of Jews and Muslims of thousands of years ago to remind them of the Pain of being Homeless.

C. As a Belief - Most if not all beliefs - especially stored in the sub conscious following and emotional and or physical trauma are what are destroying lives and the world as we know it.

D. Sadly it also appears if one is unable to use the MIND in such understandings the outcome is never for the good of the Peoples as no one knows what they do or why.

E. Fake is only a fake when put to test and fails.

F. Same as Truth as we are told to believe.

G. The truth is always alone.

H. It is important that someone should step forward and stand beside it.

I. First may we accept. It is a fundamental right for a Person to have a "Belief" and run their life by it.

J. If we are to accept this then surely the world would be so much safer if those with a strong belief could in the same manner Respect others with different beliefs.

Conclusion.  Bring this forward to modern times with the combined Anxiety of just these two factors still not only not relieved the true cause hidden on the wrong side of history that today has unwittingly forced People from being "homeless" Best if we express this as "Country less."


Circumcision and Female Gentile Mutilation 1.

Section 64. 

Question. 1. How have we jumped from being Homeless to Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation and how can we link this to Professor Stanly Milgram's experiment on Obedience?

Answer. 1... 

A. Always, when I observe the mysterious goings on in the world - not only of today - 2017, but forever in the past. 

B. I come back to Male and or Female Circumcision.

C. A bizarre practise - one might be minded to suggest; of many religions and countries.

D. However not all carry out both whilst in some countries it is rather like a Religious style service carried out rather as a public spectacle. 

Question. 2. Are there any illness that could be put down to this seemingly bizarre process other that those we have already covered?

Answer. 2. There is one I became aware of recently - where; if many Doctors looked at Childhood Insensitivity to Pain as a mysterious illness then the answer becomes more clear albeit painful.

Question. 3. Are you suggesting this CIP is caused by Circumcision - be that Male or Female?

Answer. 3. In the absence of any Scientific Proof as to the cause - then it is reasonable to consider as my specialism is with the Mind as the creator of all illness; then. Yes is the only answer.

Question. 4. If we accept this a correct is there a suggestion only the Person receiving the Procedure is affected?

Answer. 4.  Sadly No. If we look as Circumcision as a Seed from its seemingly small beginnings it insidiously grows to produce a tree with many fruits or berries - thus there is not a Person in the world that does not feel the negative effects of such a procedure.


Circumcision and Female Gentile Mutilation 2.

Section. 65.

Question. 5. Is there is no - one country we can set up as an example that perhaps it will be acceptable to use as an example?

Answer. 5...

A. Three from one.  India and West and East Pakistan/Bangladesh. 

B. Where in 1947 Through the activity of the English and Partition - the Three countries were created.

1. The Partition of India was the division of British India in 1947 which accompanied the creation of two independent dominions, India and Pakistan.

2. The Dominion of India is today the Republic of India and the Dominion of Pakistan is today the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the People's Republic of Bangladesh.

3. The partition involved the division of two provinces; Bengal and the Punjab, based on district-wise Hindu or Muslim majorities.

4. The boundary demarcating India and Pakistan became known as the Radcliffe Line.

5. It also involved the division of the British Indian Army, the Royal Indian Navy, the Indian Civil Service, the railways and the central treasury, between the two new dominions.

6. The partition was set forth in the Indian Independence Act 1947 and resulted in the dissolution of the British Raj, as the British government there was called.

7. The two self-governing countries of Pakistan and India legally came into existence at midnight on 14–15 August 1947.

8. The partition displaced between 10 and 12 million People along religious lines, creating overwhelming refugee crises in the newly constituted dominions; there was large-scale violence, with estimates of loss of life accompanying or preceding the partition disputed and varying between several hundred thousand and two million.

9. The violent nature of the partition created an atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between India and Pakistan that plagues their relationship to the present.

10. The term partition of India does not cover the secession of Bangladesh from Pakistan in 1971,

11. In such a manner - as I see it, as intended by the British Raj; the only outcome could be long-term unrest between the various Religions Groups. 

Question. 6.  Could one also consider Israel and Palestine in the same manner? 

Answer. 7. Yes indeed we can.

A. Israel officially the State of Israel created in 1948, is a country in the Middle East, on the southeastern shore of the Mediterranean Sea and the northern shore of the Red Sea.

B. It has land borders with Lebanon to the north, Syria to the northeast, Jordan on the east, the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip to the east and west, respectively and Egypt to the southwest.

C. The country contains geographically diverse features within its relatively small area.

D. Israel's economy and technology center is Tel Aviv, while its seat of government and proclaimed capital is Jerusalem, although the state's sovereignty over East Jerusalem is not recognised internationally..

E. In 1947, the United Nations adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem...

F. The plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine and rejected by Arab leaders.

G. The next year, the Jewish Agency declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel.."


Circumcision and Female Gentile Mutilation 3.

Section. 66.


Question. 1. Surely this seemingly bizarre practise of Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation  goes back much further than 1947?

Answer. 1. Indeed it very likely does, however - until we accept the Mind as implicated in this process - we will never be any different to the lost tribes of Asia and for want of a word to explain; are Hell bent on destroying the world, in pursuit of finding a or reclaiming their ancestral home.

Question. 2.  Are you able to put what one may describe - as a Scientific Label on this?

Answer. 2.  Yes it is from a massif Trauma that created Anxiety that has no way of finding any relief that would satisfy the deep seated subconscious Mind requirement for an understanding no one could ever provide as there would be an Agenda deep in the Mind that will never allow this because the desire to relieve the Anxiety via. "World Domination;"  will never be enough as the Anxiety will always remain.

Question. 3. Is there an example we could use of this World Domination?

Answer. 3. Any of the so called Gods - are a perfect example.

Question. 4. How can that be?

Answer. 4.  My understandings are. No Gods ever existed and Religion of no real value to anyone - let alone those that follow.

Question. 5. Please explain further?

Answer. 5...

A.  If we may use the word. "God;" to cover all such entities - this now belief system; is at its creation, no more that a Psychotic Controlling Cult.

B. Where. God, Jesus, Satan, Allah, Mohammed, the Devil and the Holy Ghost - are but one and the same entity; as so called Gods never existed thus were the creation of Psychotic Men, only as a form of psychotic control of those with a damaged Mind who believe by worshiping those with a more serious damaged Mind, decided such a presence was necessary in order to control.

C. This is a bit like having a male organ yet cutting of the end as a God thing - that is in part in the process of destroying the world as we know it.

D. Having had a bit cut off the end of a Male Penis - the resulting Anxiety had to be relieved; so domination of the world and control of the masses became the order of the day.

F. Welcome the Federal Reserve or control of the world monetary system - was it not a circumcised Jew that said publicly. "Control the Money, you control the politicians, you control the Laws." Resulting in Control of the worlds populations.  

G. Because Such worshipers - having been sold on God, Jesus and Satan existed - instead of seeing them all as one entity or a figment of some Damaged Mind control freaks imagination, in order to control the meek - thus is so doing by worshiping such a freak of imagination or a ghost; it made them feel good about themselves and raised their sagging estimation and made them feel worthy, instead of meek and weak.

Question. 6... 

A. Peter there is so much evidence to say there is no God - in fact you would do a very good job of convincing me that your right as plenty of People have tried to convince me that there is no God and then I have walked away almost convinced and then God asked me; "how do you think you got and stayed clean?"

B. I only have my experience Peter and experience is so much more than just knowledge?

Answer. 6.

A. Trying to convince the world God existed is not the same as People believing in God or even worshiping the very ground they themselves walk on. This I will support as any Person’s Fundamental  right to do.

B.  Surely if a Person has been or is addicted to a substance - either illegal; or not in their well health's best interest and something within them decides to stop this life-damaging activity, is it a wise thing to give away ones power by saying God did it, instead of saying. "I admit I was not working and acting in my best interest so I have now got myself clean." Thus I am no longer working in Obedience or blindly following orders; I know not who gave them, why, or even when.

C. If we are able to accept this - then does not; "I only have my experience Peter and experience is so much more than just knowledge." Not a confirmation of following orders and continuing the process of God with. "I am right because of my experience and you Peter are wrong by default - just because I say so." Failing to recognise it is only a personal opinion.

Question. 7. Talking about little bits off the end of a Childs Penis - is that not where Islam came from?

Answer. 7...

A. The possibility may well be one could search the entire history of religion and still not come up with a satisfactory  answer one could truly believe in - as history although the process we all live by; was in reality only a writers opinion.


1. Is it possible in the future history will not show how religion and Islam and Judaism contributed to destroying the entire planet - by the process of circumcision without anesthetic's; that few People if any remember having happened.

2. Thus all of the related: Gods, Jesus the Devil, Satan, the Holy Ghosts are all that just ghosts or a figment of the imagination from a damaged Mind.

3. Therefore all of them came from this process leaving us with the consideration they do not and never did exist.

Question. 8. All of this is very difficult to comprehend is there perhaps some a good markers historical or otherwise we are able to explore?

Answer. 8...

A. One has to consider for whatever reason the Jews and Muslims - members of one and the same family decided it was a necessity to Circumcise their Children.

B. This created a Fear that in turn created an Anxiety; a very powerful-painful. Emotion and Physical feeling being the foundation of all illness - that has no known cause and no known direction or cure.

C. In order to relive this anxiety From this the nastiness of so called – God, Jesus, Satan and all so called religions were created.

D. That in the millennia of time all the became all powerful non-existent entity referred to as God. How can this be so when there are reported to be some 4500 Gods.

Question. 9.  Is there a consideration where this will all lead?

Answer. 9...

A.  We have not seen the worst of this process by a long stretch of the imagination.

B. Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation may only have been created to remind the Jews and Muslims they can still feel the pain of separation from their homeland in much the same way as a Person Self harms.

Question. 10. Your comments speaks volumes of your integrity and wisdom as having the length and breadth of a true Psychopath - so desperate to get their own way by shouting others down with such eloquence of words.

Answer. 10...

A. Whilst your comment is recognised and indeed I would not wish to argue - although that is not the intention; more to provide a different viewpoint just like so many in history that are now so anti British - despite the worldwide faults of the United Kingdom, with words intended to demonstrate. "You are right and everyone else is wrong by default - just because you say so."

B. With the often used words although not clearly addressed to anyone in particular." “Shut up with your anti Jew/Muslim comments.”

C. Sadly as a result of the inability to relieve the Anxiety caused by Circumcision. Soon the Jews and Muslims - when they have collectively dominated the world; will turn to fighting themselves, as the Anxiety not relieved will only drive much harder as they will be drawn towards the very Anxiety they try to draw away from.

D. Whilst we can consider any country that colonized another or other countries have a part to play - they only continued the Anxiety caused by Circumcision and at the same time gave the Anxiety a purpose or, an on going way of relief.    

E. The very method by which Anti-Semitic came into being in the first place and what may well be considered a concerted effort to dominate the world as there was now a Common Purpose although not publicly proclaimed.

F. Thereby covering up some Psychotic Person(s) - in the same manner as many words intended, silenced the Order Followers who blindly followed the Orders no matter if they are right or wrong or whatever the circumstances.


Circumcision and Female Gentile Mutilation 4.

Section. 67.

Question. 1. It surely is very complicated to follow all of this is there a way we can explore further; or demonstrate the points made?

Answer. 1...

A. The Holocaust is a fine example - as is the 1939. “Voyage of the dammed.”

B. Following the first circumcision - Jews in order to relieve an Anxiety created through the same circumcision, sought to show the world the Jews, if indeed they are a race of People not just a religious cult, in the same manner; A Muslim is someone who follows or practices Islam, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion. Muslims consider the Quran (Koran), their holy book, to be the verbatim... Are not a Race of People.  Deserve a homeland of their own, by creating the Holocaust in order to get the same type of sympathy by using. The Voyage of the Dammed."

C. A luxury liner with Nine Hundred Jews set sail from Germany to the Americas and although they had visa were not allowed in to America.

D. Are we really to believe this was not prearranged by those that allowed the boarding of so few Jews compared to the 6 Million who reportedly lost their lives to the holocaust.  And if so for what reason.

E. And on a worldwide bases always seeking Domination via Israel The Vatican and the many secret societies around the world – who, if they surely had good intent would not need to be secret.

F. Shouted everyone down with their words you are being  “Anti-Semitic,” words that resonate today in order to cover up the illusion and their post Circumcision Pain.

G. Whilst their family members and with everyone’s attention diverted - this clearly demonstrates an insidious process of taking over the world, yet are so blinded by the Pain post Circumcision; they are unable to see the consequences of their activity is in no one’s interest.     

Question. 2. Is there a hidden message here Women are no longer reproducing as a result of Female Genital Mutilation and Circumcision?

Answer, 2...

A. Whilst today there are many countries that frown on Female Genital Mutilation in some countries that still practise Circumcision. There is the highest population growth rates.

Question. 3. So why the imbalance and is the population growth part of the same concern as to why - as a case in point Pakistan is in such turmoil?

Answer. 3...

A. It is not just Pakistan that is in turmoil - it is the entire world and although as you know and I am passionate about the negative part the United Kingdom played in the creation of Pakistan.

B. I am also very mindful of the part the long-term History played - as to why Pakistan has never been able to reconcile all of its internal and external conflicts.

C. That were designed by the lost tribes of Jews and Muslims thousands of years ago to remind them of the Pain of being Homeless.

D. Thus I feel for Pakistan, India and the entire world now controlled by Jews/Muslims in the same fashion - as they are part of the same family of lost tribes.

E. Sadly it also appears if one is unable to use the MIND in such understandings - that the outcome is never for the good of the Peoples; as no one really knows, what they do or why.

Question. 4. So why is it God never comes to the assistance of those that believe and relieves their Pain?

Answer. 4. There is a possibility such a question would be met with more of a dismissal than an answer to the question - as the existence of God must not be questioned with words such a; I can feel the sense of betrayal, doubt and anger in your words and God has a plan for your life that He designed before you were born.

Question. 5. Is it possible to evaluate or demonstrate from a real story the values of the existence or not of God?

Answer. 5... 

A. There may well be yet. I cannot speak for those I only know by association through my best friend A Sister of Mercy - a Nun.

B. For although the many Nuns have - not only dedicated their lives to this mysterious God they have prayed for his help, not only for themselves but everyone else.

C. Not once have I been privileged, if only but second hand - to any information that any God or so called Son Jesus ever shone a light on them to improve the illness in their lives - despite praying for his assistance perhaps many times a day.

D. All that has happened is Gods partners in crime: Jesus, Satan, the Devil and the Holy Ghost having worked hard to make them Order Followers by telling the tale; their God or Jesus will be there to save us all - whilst at the same time they all became more and more ill. 

E. If anything this belief - a fundamental right not a gift; I support, makes matters worse as the Person is goaded into believing no one but God can help.

F. Thus the possibility that. “God has a plan for our life that He designed before we were born.” Only confirms God in all of its meanings was contrived by a Psychotic Man or a group of Psychotic Men as a cult in order to psychotically control the world.

G. Possibly as a result of Circumcision without Anaesthetic.

H. No Child of worth could ever be Born without intercourse and impregnation of a Female species.

I. For this in my Mind has nothing to do with so called Physical Pain that is only a memory of the Pain the Mind feels. 

J. I also have - not a belief; a secure understanding our Mind is the creator of all illness. No exceptions.

K. With Which - a now damaged Mind it appears everyone is searching for something; often the cause of their mysterious illnesses.

L. Thus all "Beliefs," are no more than a relief of Anxiety that we make permanent and maintain as a driving force in order to protect us from the same trauma happening again.

M. May I also suggest. "I think every belief should be examined before it enters our Subconscious Mind!"

N. Sadly this is not possible - as all of our personal beliefs are created in our Mind all based on information received be that Positive Negative or Indifferent.

O. Thus our response can be in keeping with all three.

P. Often prefixed with the words. "I do not/will/never want to go through that again."

Q. And as Parents with a belief. "I will not let my children grow up to suffer in the same manner as I." They (Parents) always fail to see - especially if their Child is ill in any manner or dutifully yet negatively is prepared to give their own life in support of; or follow a cult, their Children, only suffer much worse and often will stop at nothing with such powerful Beliefs.

R. I always state my point of view especially in my Surgery - starting with the Worst Case scenario.

S. From this it is almost always very difficult to be wrong.

T. Now to answer your very eloquent question…

1. As a race of People we must all look at and re-examine our core Beliefs and start at the worst and request of ourselves.

2. “Where did we get them and more important why and how can we positively - as Medical Science tells us it does. Scientifically Prove our Beliefs were then and still are justified and with the Pain of the answer be prepared to accept what our Mind – our Master tells us.” And as a Consequence make the Painful changes necessary.

3. There are very many countries and religions that still advocate as a. “Belief.” Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation - the latter often results in “Obstetric Fistula.”

4. Surely; we must not only ask - but be prepared to act on the answers we receive.

5. Were the creators of. this. “Belief,” aware of the consequences and indeed is there any real - not emotional, scientific evidence of the modern outcomes of such a Belief. 

6. Surely if we can change just this Belief in the Minds of all of the People - the Beliefs that created such barbaric actions could be changed and many countries and indeed perhaps the world would be a safer place for all to live in.  

Conclusion... To summarise...

1. Humans will always be drawn towards the anxiety one tries to draw away from - often referred to as repeating patterns.

2. In order to avoid the truth we Humans will always Chang the Subject mid conversation.

3. The older I get, the more I realise no one has any idea what they are actually doing and everyone is just pretending.

4. Writers or speakers typically use allegories as literary devices or as rhetorical devices that convey hidden meanings through symbolic figures like God, Jesus and imaginary events - Mary gave birth to a son via no conception; which together create the dream like state demanded by cults and sects called Religion and the happy clapper congregation of followers.

5. If one as found it difficult to follow this paper please consider the difficulty so many People in history have had in making sense of Orders they know the have to follow yet have a deep seated feeling something is not correct about the orders the outcome and the consequences.

Question. 6.  I realise predicting or attempting to read the future is not in your desires with your recognition it is foolish to attempt to do so and this comprehensive paper incorporates the Experiment on Obedience and includes: Order Followers, Common Purpose and New World Order - a somewhat revelation to end 2017 with and now of course we have the media frenzy of the Tax avoidance Havens of the Paradise papers - have we now covered all aspects of what one may term as Following Orders or is there more to come?

Answer. 6. One might be minded to think - poor Stanley Milgram; what would he not only think, but feel has happened to the world and its People he thought he was exploring with his Experiments on Obedience. For to top it all - yet another method of control of the populations is beginning to surface; yet we must also consider, it has been there in plain sight for all but the general populations to notice. Open Society is the term it is sold to us as.

Question. 7. That is a new one on me? May we explore it to bring this exploration to a close?

Answer. 7.  Yes of course... Whilst one must take this entire web page as an exploration into the true meaning of: Obedience, Order Followers, Common Purpose and now Open Society when one evaluates the way of the World 2017 - it is clear none of theses processes have ever produced the outcome desired by the population - a better world; for today more than ever it appears. "If one has a criminal or immoral intent in ones actions, then there is support and the victims of such action are somewhat condemned.

Leaving one to ponder are all these processes actually designed for the good of Mankind or are they a very insidious process designed for world domination that although in plain sight are presented in such a smiling manner as to be invisible.

Thus it is imperative we remember the wisdom derived from the ancient proverb that says...

"Beware of Smiling Strangers bearing Gifts."


Open Society 1.

Section. 68.

Question. 1. What's the meaning of the phrase. 'Beware of Greeks bearing gifts'?

Answer. 1...

Do not trust your enemies.

The origin of the phrase. 'Beware of Greeks bearing gifts...'

An allusion to the story of the Wooden Horse of Troy, used by the Greeks to trick their way into the city. It is recorded in Virgil's Aeneid, Book 2, 19 BC:

"Do not trust the Horse, Trojans. Whatever it is, I fear the Greeks even when they bring gifts."

Of course that version is a translation. Another translation, suggests. "Trust not their presents, nor admit the Horse."

The same thought was also recorded by Sophocles (496 - 406 BC), in Ajax:

Naught from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.

So now I find that ancient proverb true,

Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.

Let us now explore in question and answer form...


Open Society 1.

Section. 69.

Open Society.



Question. 1. What are. Civil and Political rights?

Answer. 1...

Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations and private individuals.

They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression.

Question. 2. What is/ Cultural liberalism Democracy?

Answer. 2...

Cultural liberalism is a liberal view of society that stresses the freedom of individuals from cultural norms and in the words of Thoreau is often expressed as the right to "march to the beat of a different drummer".

Cultural liberals believe that society should not impose any specific code of behavior and they see themselves as defending the moral rights of nonconformists to express their own identity however they see fit, as long as they do not harm anyone.

The culture wars in politics are generally disagreements between cultural liberals and cultural conservatives, as cultural liberals are strongly opposed to censorship or any kind of oversight of spoken or written material.

They believe that the structure of one's family and the nature of marriage should be left up to individual decision and they argue; that as long as one does no harm, no lifestyle is inherently better than any other.

Because cultural liberalism expresses the social dimension of liberalism, it is often referred to as "social liberalism," but is not the same as the political ideology known as Social liberalism.

Question. 3. And. Liberal Democracy?

Answer. 3...

Liberal democracy is a liberal political ideology and a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism.

Also called western democracy, it is characterized by fair, free and competitive elections between multiple distinct political parties, a separation of powers into different branches of government, the rule of law in everyday life as part of an open society and the equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties and political freedoms for all People.

To define the system in practice, liberal democracies often draw upon a constitution, either formally written or uncodified, to delineate the powers of government and enshrine the social contract.

After a period of sustained expansion throughout the 20th century, liberal democracy became the predominant political system in the world.

A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms: it may be a constitutional monarchy: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Japan, Norway, Spain and the United Kingdom or a republic. France, India, Ireland, the United States.

It may have a parliamentary system: Australia, Canada, India, Ireland and the United Kingdom, a presidential system: Indonesia and the United States, or a semi-presidential system; France.

Liberal democracies usually have universal suffrage, granting all adult citizens the right to vote regardless of race, gender or property ownership.

However, historically some countries regarded as liberal democracies have had a more limited franchise and some do not have secret ballots.

There may also be qualifications such as voters being required to register before being allowed to vote.

The decisions made through elections are made not by all of the citizens, but rather by those who choose to participate by voting.

The liberal democratic constitution defines the democratic character of the state.

The purpose of a constitution is often seen as a limit on the authority of the government.

Liberal democracy emphasizes the separation of powers, an independent judiciary and a system of checks and balances between branches of government.

Liberal democracies are likely to emphasise the importance of the state being a Rechtsstaat, i.e. a state that follows the principle of rule of law.

Governmental authority is legitimately exercised only in accordance with written, publicly disclosed laws adopted and enforced in accordance with established procedure.

Many democracies use federalism - also known as vertical separation of power; in order to prevent abuse and increase public input by dividing governing powers between municipal, provincial and national governments. e.g., Germany where the federal government assumes the main legislative responsibilities and the federated Länder assume many executive tasks.

Question. 4. Please explain; Economic liberalism Egalitarianism?

Answer. 4.

Is a school of thought that prioritizes equality for all People.

Egalitarian doctrines maintain that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or social status, according to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the term has two distinct definitions in modern English: either as a political doctrine that all People should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social and civil rights; or as a social philosophy advocating the removal of economic inequalities among People, economic egalitarianism, or the decentralization of power.

Some sources define egalitarianism as the point of view that equality reflects the natural state of humanity.

Question. 5. What is a Free market?

Answer. 5. In economics, a free market is a system in which the prices for goods and services are determined by the open market and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Question. 6. And Free trade, means?

Answer. 6... 

Free trade is the economic policy of not discriminating against imports from and exports to foreign jurisdictions.

Buyers and sellers from separate economies may voluntarily trade without the domestic government applying tariffs, quotas, subsidies or prohibitions on their goods and services.

Free trade is the opposite of trade protectionism or economic isolationism. 


Politically, a free trade policy may just be the absence of any other trade policies; the government need not positively do anything to promote free trade.

This is one reason it is sometimes referred to as “laissez-faire trade” or “trade liberalization.”

Governments with free trade agreements (FTAs) do not necessarily abandon all control of taxation of imports and exports.

In modern international trade, very few so-called FTAs actually fit the textbook definition of free trade.

Economics of Free Trade.

In a free trade regime, both economies can experience faster growth rates.

This is no different than voluntary trade between neighbors, towns or states.

Free trade enables domestic workers to concentrate those goods and services where they have a distinct comparative advantage, a benefit widely popularized by economist David Ricardo in his 1817 book “On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation.”

By expanding the economy’s diversity of products, knowledge and skills, free trade also encourages specialization and the division of labour.

Question. 7. What is it to have; Freedom of the press?

Answer. 7.

With respect to governmental information, any government may distinguish which materials are public or protected from disclosure to the public.

State materials are protected due to either of two reasons: the classification of information as sensitive, classified or secret, or the relevance of the information to protecting the national interest.

Many governments are also subject to sunshine laws or freedom of information legislation that are used to define the ambit of national interest.

The United Nations' 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference, to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers." 

This philosophy is usually accompanied by legislation ensuring various degrees of freedom of scientific research - known as scientific freedom, publishing and press.

The depth to which these laws are entrenched in a country's legal system can go as far down as its constitution.

The concept of freedom of speech is often covered by the same laws as freedom of the press, thereby giving equal treatment to spoken and published expression.

Question. 8. Does the same apply to; Freedom of Religion?

Answer. 8.  

Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

It also includes the freedom to change one's religion or belief.

Freedom of religion is considered by many People and most of the nations to be a fundamental human right.

In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion and does not persecute believers in other faiths.

Freedom of belief is different. It allows the right to believe what a Person, group or religion wishes, but it does not necessarily allow the right to practice the religion or belief openly and outwardly in a public manner.

Question. 9. Is Freedom of speech taken as so?

Answer. 9. 

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship.

The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. 

Freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Article 19 of the UDHR states that "everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of choice."

The version of Article 19 in the ICCPR later amends this by stating that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary.

"For respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "For the protection of national security or of public order - order public, or of public health or morals."

Therefore, freedom of speech and expression may not be recognized as being absolute and common limitations to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security and perjury.

Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that: "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."

The idea of the "offense principle" is also used in the justification of speech limitations, describing the restriction on forms of expression deemed offensive to society, considering factors such as extent, duration, motives of the speaker and ease with which it could be avoided.

With the evolution of the digital age, application of the freedom of speech becomes more controversial as new means of communication and restrictions arise, for example the Golden Shield Project, an initiative by Chinese government's Ministry of Public Security that filters potentially unfavorable data from foreign countries.

The right to freedom of expression has been interpreted to include the right to take and publish photographs of strangers in public areas without their permission or knowledge.

Question. 10. How is this explained - Gender Equality?

Answer. 10. 

Gender equality, also known as sexual equality, is the state of equal ease of access to resources and opportunities regardless of gender, including economic participation and decision-making; and the state of valuing different behaviors, aspirations and needs equally, regardless of gender.

Gender equality, equality between men and women, entails the concept that all human beings, both men and women, are free to develop their personal abilities and make choices without the limitations set by stereotypes, rigid gender roles and prejudices.

Gender equality means that the different behaviour, aspirations and needs of Women and Men are considered, valued and favoured equally.

It does not mean that Women and Men have to become the same, but that their rights, responsibilities and opportunities will not depend on whether they are born Male or Female.

Gender equity means fairness of treatment for Women and Men, according to their respective needs.

This may include equal treatment or treatment that is different but which is considered equivalent in terms of rights, benefits, obligations and opportunities.

ABC Of Women Worker's Rights And Gender Equality, ILO, 2000.

Gender equality is the goal, while gender neutrality and gender equity are practices and ways of thinking that help in achieving the goal.

Gender parity, which is used to measure gender balance in a given situation, can aid in achieving gender equality but is not the goal in and of itself.

Gender equality is more than equal representation, it is strongly tied to Women's rights and often requires policy changes.

As of 2017, the global movement for gender equality has not incorporated the proposition of genders besides Women and Men, or gender identities outside of the gender binary.

UNICEF says gender equality "means that Women and Men and Girls and Boys, enjoy the same rights, resources, opportunities and protections.

It does not require that Girls and Boys, or Women and Men, be the same, or that they be treated exactly alike.

On a global scale, achieving gender equality also requires eliminating harmful practices against Women and Girls, including sex trafficking, femicide, wartime sexual violence and other oppression tactics.

UNFPA stated that, "despite many international agreements affirming their human rights, Women are still much more likely than Men to be poor and illiterate.

They have less access to property ownership, credit, training and employment.

They are far less likely than Men to be politically active and far more likely to be victims of domestic violence.

As of 2017, gender equality is the fifth of seventeen sustainable development goals of the United Nations. Gender inequality is measured annually by the United Nations Development Programs Human Development Reports.

Question. 11. Harm principle Internationalism?

Answer. 11... 

The harm principle holds that the actions of individuals should only be limited to prevent harm to other individuals.

John Stuart Mill articulated this principle in On Liberty, where he argued that, "The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."

An equivalent was earlier stated in France's Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen of 1789 as, "Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else;" hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights.

These limits can only be determined by law.

The belief. That no one should be forcibly prevented from acting in any way he chooses provided his acts are not invasive of the free acts of others; has become one of the basic principles of libertarian politics.

While the phrase, "harm principle," was not itself used until 1969, the harm principle itself was first fully articulated by the English thinker John Stuart Mill (1806–1873) in the first chapter of On Liberty. 1859.

Question. 12. How is Laissez-faire expressed?

Answer. 12. Is an economic system in which transactions between private parties are free from government intervention such as regulation, privileges, tariffs and subsidies.

Question. 13. What is. Liberty Market economy?

Answer. 13...

The interconnection between economic and political freedom from 1949. 

The Austrian free market economists argue - not only that political and economic liberty are inextricably linked; but that economic liberty is the foundation stone for all political liberties.

Freedom, as People enjoyed it in the democratic countries of Western civilization in the years of the old liberalism’s triumph, was not a product of constitutions, bills of rights, laws, and statutes.

Those documents aimed only at safeguarding liberty and freedom, firmly established by the operation of the market economy, against encroachments on the part of officeholders.

No government and no civil law can guarantee and bring about freedom otherwise than by supporting and defending the fundamental institutions of the market economy.

Government means - always coercion and compulsion and is by necessity the opposite of liberty.

Government is a guarantor of liberty and is compatible with liberty only if its range is adequately restricted to the preservation of what is called economic freedom.

Where there is no market economy, the best-intentioned provisions of constitutions and laws remain a dead letter. 

Many others argued for many years - that economic and political liberty were interlinked and that to destroy one - such as economic liberty, would eventually harm the other - political liberty.

Aiming the argument at the “political liberals,” i.e. social democrats; who were happy to regulate and control the economy without thinking that they would thereby end up harming what they considered to be a higher value, namely political freedom.

Thus goes much further than this with the premise. “On Freedom” in Human Action; in which it is argued that political freedom is dependent about flourishing free markets and that written constitutions merely protect already existing institutions created by market activities.

If these free market institutions are weakened too much then the political edifice which is built upon them will come crashing down.

Question. 14. What does. Natural and legal rights suggest?

Answer. 14... 

'Natural and legal rights' are two types of rights...

Natural rights are those that are not dependent on the laws or customs of any particular culture or government and therefore universal and inalienable. i.e., rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws.

Legal rights are those bestowed onto a Person by a given legal system. i.e., rights that can be modified, repealed and restrained by human laws.

The concept of natural law is related to the concept of natural rights.

Natural law first appeared in ancient Greek philosophy and was referred to by Roman philosopher Cicero.

It was subsequently alluded to in the Bible and was then developed in the Middle Ages by Catholic philosophers such as Albert the Great and his pupil Thomas Aquinas.

During the Age of Enlightenment, the concept of natural laws was used to challenge the divine right of kings and became an alternative justification for the establishment of a social contract, positive law and government - and thus legal rights; in the form of classical republicanism.

Conversely, the concept of natural rights is used by others to challenge the legitimacy of all such establishments.

The idea of human rights is also closely related to that of natural rights: some acknowledge no difference between the two, regarding them as synonymous, while others choose to keep the terms separate to eliminate association with some features traditionally associated with natural rights.

Natural rights, in particular, are considered beyond the authority of any government or international body to dismiss.

The 1948 United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights is an important legal instrument enshrining one conception of natural rights into international soft law.

Natural rights were traditionally viewed as exclusively negative rights, whereas human rights also comprise positive rights.

Even on a natural rights conception of human rights, the two terms may not be synonymous.

The proposition that animals have natural rights is one that gained the interest of philosophers and legal scholars in the 20th century and into the 21st.

Question. 15.  Positive - Negative liberty?

Answer. 15. 

Two Concepts of Liberty.

Positive liberty... is a valid universal goal.

I do not know why I should have been held to doubt this, or, for that matter, the further proposition, that democratic self-government is a fundamental human need, something valuable in itself, whether or not it clashes with the claims of negative liberty or of any other goal...

What I am mainly concerned to establish is that, whatever may be the common ground between them and whatever is liable to graver distortion, negative and positive liberty are not the same thing."

Isaiah Berlin, Five Essays on Liberty: An Introduction

"Two Concepts of Liberty" was the inaugural lecture delivered by the liberal philosopher Isaiah Berlin before the University of Oxford on 31 October 1958.

It was subsequently published as a 57-page pamphlet by Oxford at the Clarendon Press.

It also appears in the collection of Berlin's papers entitled Four Essays on Liberty (1969) and was more recently reissued in a collection entitled simply Liberty (2002). 

The essay, with its analytical approach to the definition of political concepts, re-introduced the study of political philosophy to the methods of analytic philosophy.

It is also one of Berlin's first expressions of his ethical ontology of value-pluralism.

Berlin defined negative liberty as the term "liberty" was used by Thomas Hobbes as the absence of coercion or interference with agents' possible private actions, by an exterior social-body.

He also defined it as a comparatively recent political ideal, which re-emerged in the late 17th century, after its slow and inarticulate birth in the Ancient doctrines of Antiphon the Sophist, the Cyrenaic discipleship and of Octanes after the death of pseudo-Smerdis.

In an introduction to the essay, Berlin writes: 

"As for Otanes, he wished neither to rule nor to be ruled — the exact opposite of Aristotle's notion of true civic liberty...

This ideal remains isolated and, until Epicurus, undeveloped... the notion had not explicitly emerged."

Positive liberty.

"is involved in the answer to the question 'What, or who, is the source of control or interference that can determine someone to do, or be, this rather than that?'

The two questions are clearly different, even though the answers to them may overlap."

Positive liberty may be understood as self-mastery and includes one's having a role in choosing who governs the society of which one is a part.

Berlin traced positive liberty from Aristotle's definition of citizenship, which is historically derived from the social role of the freemen of classical Athens: it was, Berlin argued, the liberty in choosing their government granted to citizens and extolled, most famously, by Pericles.

Berlin granted that both concepts of liberty represent valid human ideals and that both forms of liberty are necessary in any free and civilised society.

Negative liberty.

"liberty in the negative sense involves an answer to the question: 'What is the area within which the subject; a Person or group of Persons, is or should be left to do or be what they are able to do or be, without interference by other Persons'."

For Berlin, negative liberty represents a different and sometimes contradictory, understanding of the concept of liberty, which needs to be carefully examined.

Its later proponents (such as Tocqueville, Constant, Montesquieu, John Locke, David Hume and John Stuart Mill, who accepted Chrysippus' understanding of self-determination, insisted that constraint and discipline were the antithesis of liberty and so were and are, less prone to confusing liberty and constraint in the manner of rationalists and the philosophical harbingers of totalitarianism.[citation

This concept of negative liberty, Berlin argued, constitutes an alternative and sometimes even opposed, concept to positive liberty and one often closer to the intuitive modern usage of the word 

Abuse of Positive liberty.

Isaiah Berlin notes that historically positive liberty has proven particularly susceptible to rhetorical abuse; especially from the 18th century onwards, it has either been paternalistically re-drawn from the third-person, or conflated with the concept of negative liberty and thus disguised underlying value-conflicts.

Berlin contended that under the influence of Plato, Aristotle, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Immanuel Kant, and G. W. F. Hegel, modern political thinkers often conflated positive liberty with rational action, based upon a rational knowledge to which, it is argued, only a certain elite or social group has access.

This rationalist conflation was open to political abuses, which encroached on negative liberty, when such interpretations of positive liberty were, in the nineteenth century, used to defend nationalism, paternalism, social engineering, historicism  and collective rational control over human destiny.

Berlin argued that, following this line of thought, demands for freedom paradoxically could become demands for forms of collective control and discipline - those deemed necessary for the "self-mastery" or "self-determination" of nations, classes, democratic communities and even humanity as a whole.

There is thus an elective affinity, for Berlin, between positive liberty, when it is rhetorically conflated with goals imposed from the third-person that the individual is told they "should" rationally desire, and the justifications for political totalitarianism, which contrary to value-pluralism, presupposed that values exist in Pythagorean harmony.

Question. 16. Is there a value in a Permissive Society?

Answer. 16...

A permissive society is a society in which social norms become increasingly liberal, especially with regard to sexual freedom.

This usually accompanies a change in what is considered deviant.

While typically preserving the rule "do not harm others," a permissive society would have few other moral or legal codes - no victimless crimes, for example.


Permissive society can be seen as a supplement for a free society.

The free society is based on political and philosophical liberalism of the nineteenth century, while the permissive society extends the freedom beyond political and intellectual ones and includes social and moral freedom.

Aspects that have changed recently in modern permissive societies. 

Sexual freedom has increased.

This includes the freedom to take part in sexual activities which were previously considered unacceptable or even criminalized, such as BDSM, fetishes and homosexuality.

Freedom to view violent and sexual material including movies, music, art and literature has increased and censorship of these and other arts has decreased.

The power of religious groups subsides, often accompanied by a rising secularism.

Question. 17. Why should Private Property enter into this discussion.

Answer. 17. 

Private property is a legal designation for the ownership of property by non-governmental legal entities.

Private property is distinguishable from public property, which is owned by a state entity and from collective - or cooperative) property, which is owned by a group of non-governmental entities.

In Marxist literature, private property is further distinguished from personal property, which refers to property for personal use and consumption.

Private property is a legal concept defined and enforced by a country's political system.

Question. 18. What is the Rule of law Secularism?

Answer. 18...

Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and Persons mandated to represent the state from Religious Institution and Religious Dignitaries - the attainment of such is termed secularity.

One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its People.

Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by Religious beliefs or practices.

Secularism draws its intellectual roots from Greek and Roman philosophers such as Epicurus and Marcus Aurelius; from Enlightenment thinkers such as John Locke, Denis Diderot, Voltaire, Baruch Spinoza, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine and from more recent freethinkers and atheists such as Robert Ingersoll, Bertrand Russell and Christopher Hitchens.

The purposes and arguments in support of secularism vary widely.

In European laicism, it has been argued that secularism is a movement toward modernization and away from traditional religious values, also known as secularization.

This type of secularism, on a social or philosophical level, has often occurred while maintaining an official state church or other state support of religion.

In the United States, some argue that state secularism has served to a greater extent to protect religion and the religious from governmental interference, while secularism on a social level is less prevalent.

Question. 19. How is it there is a. Separation of Church and State?

Answer. 19... 

The separation of church and state is a philosophic and jurisprudential concept for defining political distance in the relationship between religious organizations and the nation state.

Conceptually, the term refers to the creation of a secular state, with or without legally explicit church – state separation and to disestablishment, the changing of an existing, formal relationship between the church and the state. 

In a society, the degree of political separation between the church and the civil state are determined by the legal structures and prevalent legal views that define the proper relationship between organized religion and the state.

The Arm's length principle proposes a relationship wherein the two, political entities interact as organizations independent of the authority of the other.

The strict application of secular principle of laïcité - secularity, is used in France, while secular societies, such as Denmark and the United Kingdom, maintain a form of constitutional recognition of an official state religion.

The philosophy of the separation of the church from the civil state parallels the philosophies of secularism, disestablishmentarianism, religious liberty and religious pluralism, by way of which the European states assumed some of the social roles of the church, the welfare state, a social shift that produced a culturally secular population and public sphere.

In practice, church–state separation varies from total separation, mandated by the country's political constitution, as in India and Singapore, to a state religion, as in the Maldives.

Question. 20. Does the term Social Contract have meaning today.

Answer. 20... 

The original cover of Thomas Hobbes's work Leviathan (1651), in which he discusses the concept of the Social Contract theory.

In both moral and political philosophy, the social contract or political contract is a theory or model, originating during the Age of Enlightenment, that typically addresses the questions of the origin of society and the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual.

Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler or magistrate - or to the decision of a majority, in exchange for protection of their remaining rights.

The question of the relation between natural and legal rights, therefore, is often an aspect of social contract theory.

The term takes its name from The Social Contract (Du contrat social ou Principes du droit politique), a 1762 book by Jean-Jacques Rousseau that discussed this concept.

Although the antecedents of social contract theory are found in antiquity, in Greek and Stoic philosophy and Roman and Canon Law, the heyday of the social contract was the mid-17th to early 19th centuries, when it emerged as the leading doctrine of political legitimacy.

The starting point for most social contract theories is an examination of the Human condition absent any political order that Thomas Hobbes termed the "state of nature.".

In this condition, individuals' actions are bound only by their personal power and conscience.

From this shared starting point, social contract theorists seek to demonstrate, in different ways, why a rational individual would voluntarily consent to give up their natural freedom to obtain the benefits of political order.

Hugo Grotius (1625), Thomas Hobbes (1651), Samuel Pufendorf (1673), John Locke (1689), Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1762) and Immanuel Kant (1797) are among the most prominent of 17th- and 18th-century theorists of social contract and natural rights.

Each solved the problem of political authority in a different way.

Grotius posited that individual human beings had natural rights.

Thomas Hobbes famously said that in a "state of nature," Human life would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short."

In the absence of political order and law, everyone would have unlimited natural freedoms, including the "right to all things" and thus the freedom to plunder, rape and murder; there would be an endless "war of all against all" (bellum omnium contra omnes).

To avoid this, free men contract with each other to establish political community, i.e. civil society, through a social contract in which they all gain security in return for subjecting themselves to an absolute sovereign, one man or an assembly of men.

Though the sovereign's edicts may well be arbitrary and tyrannical, Hobbes saw absolute government as the only alternative to the terrifying anarchy of a state of nature.

Hobbes asserted that humans consent to abdicate their rights in favor of the absolute authority of government - whether monarchical or parliamentary.

Pufendorf disputed Hobbes's equation of a state of nature with war.

Alternatively, John Locke and Jean-Jacques Rousseau have argued that we gain civil rights in return for accepting the obligation to respect and defend the rights of others, giving up some freedoms to do so.

The central assertion of social contract approaches is that law and political order are not natural, but are instead Human creations.

The social contract and the political order it creates are simply the means towards an end - the benefit of the individuals involved and legitimate only to the extent that they fulfill their part of the agreement.

According to Hobbes - in whose view government is not a party to the original contract; citizens are not obligated to submit to the government when it is too weak to act effectively to suppress factionalism and civil unrest.

According to other social contract theorists, when the government fails to secure their natural rights (Locke) or satisfy the best interests of society (called the "general will" in Rousseau), citizens can withdraw their obligation to obey, or change the leadership through elections or other means including, when necessary, violence.

Locke believed that natural rights were inalienable and that the rule of God therefore superseded government authority and Rousseau believed that democracy - self-rule; was the best way of ensuring the general welfare while maintaining individual freedom under the rule of law.

The Lockean concept of the social contract was invoked in the United States Declaration of Independence.

Social contract theories were eclipsed in the 19th century in favor of utilitarianism, Hegelianism, Marxism and were revived in the 20th century, notably in the form of a thought experiment by John Rawls.

Question. 21. Do we live in a Welfare State.

Answer. 21...  

The welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the social and economic well-being of its citizens.

It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.

The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization.

The sociologist T.H. Marshall described the modern welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare and capitalism.

Modern welfare states include Germany, France, the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, as well as the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model.

Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; social democratic, conservative and liberal.

The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state to the services provided (i.e. healthcare, education, etc.) as well as directly to individuals - "benefits."

It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of mixed economy.

Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax.

Proponents argue that this helps reduce the income gap between the rich and poor.

Question. 22. Does Open Society have any real validity.

Answer. 22.

The open society is a concept originally suggested in 1932 by the French philosopher Henri Bergson and developed during the Second World War by Austrian-born British philosopher Karl Popper.

Bergson describes a closed society as a closed system of Law or Religion.

As such it is static, like a closed Mind.

Bergson suggests that if all traces of civilization were to disappear, the instincts of the now-closed society would remain for including or excluding others from it.

In contrast, an open society is dynamic and inclined to the ideal of moral universalism.

Popper saw the open society as standing on a historical continuum reaching from the organic, tribal, or closed society, through the open society marked by a critical attitude to tradition, up to the abstract or depersonalized society lacking all face-to-face interaction transactions.

In open societies, the government is expected to be responsive, tolerant and political mechanisms are said to be transparent and flexible.

Advocates claim that it is opposed to authoritarianism. 


Popper saw the classical Greeks as initiating the long slow transition from tribalism towards the open society and as facing for the first time the strain imposed by the less personal group relations entailed thereby.

Whereas tribalistic and collectivist societies do not distinguish between natural laws and social customs, so that individuals are unlikely to challenge traditions they believe to have a sacred or magical basis.

The beginnings of an open society are marked by a distinction between natural and man-made law and an increase in personal responsibility and accountability for moral choices - not incompatible with religious belief.

Popper argued that the ideas of individuality, criticism and humanitarianism cannot be suppressed once People have become aware of them and therefore that it is impossible to return to the closed society, but at the same time recognized the continuing emotional pull of what he called “the lost group spirit of tribalism,” as manifested for example in the totalitarianisms of the 20th century.

While the period since Popper's study has undoubtedly been marked by the spread of the open society, this may be attributed less to Popper's advocacy and more to the role of the economic advances of late modernity.

Growth-based industrial societies require literacy, anonymity and social mobility from their members - elements incompatible with much traditional-based behavior but demanding the ever-wider spread of the abstract social relations Georg Simmel saw as characterizing the metropolitan mental stance.


Popper defined the open society as one "in which individuals are confronted with personal decisions" as opposed to a "magical or tribal or collectivist society."

He considered that only democracy provides an institutional mechanism for reform and leadership change without the need for bloodshed, revolution or coup d'état.

Modern advocates of the open society suggest that society would keep no secrets from itself in the public sense, as all are trusted with the knowledge of all.

Political freedoms and human rights are claimed to be the foundation of an open society. By whom?

Critical knowledge.

Popper's concept of the open society is epistemological rather than political.

When Popper wrote The Open Society and its Enemies, he believed that the social sciences had failed to grasp the significance and the nature of fascism and communism because these sciences were based on what he saw to be faulty epistemology.

Totalitarianism forced knowledge to become political which made critical thinking impossible and led to the destruction of knowledge in totalitarian countries.

Popper's theory that knowledge is provisional and fallible implies that society must be open to alternative points of view.

An open society is associated with cultural and religious pluralism; it is always open to improvement because knowledge is never completed but always ongoing: “if we wish to remain human, then there is only one way, the way into the open society... into the unknown, the uncertain and insecure.”

In the closed society, claims to certain knowledge and ultimate truth lead to the attempted imposition of one version of reality.

Such a society is closed to freedom of thought.

In contrast, in an open society each citizen needs to engage in critical thinking, which requires freedom of thought and expression and the cultural and legal institutions that can facilitate this.

Further characteristics.

Humanitarianism, equality and political freedom are ideally fundamental characteristics of an open society.

This was recognized by Pericles, a statesman of the Athenian democracy, in his laudatory funeral oration: "advancement in public life falls to reputation for capacity, class considerations not being allowed to interfere with merit; nor again does poverty bar the way, if a man is able to serve the state, he is not hindered by the obscurity of his condition.

The freedom which we enjoy in our government extends also to our ordinary life."

Arguably however it was the tension between a traditional society and the new, more open space of the emerging polis which most fully marked classical Athens and Popper was very aware of the continuing emotional appeal of what he called "holism... longing for the lost unity of tribal life" into the modern world.


Investor and philanthropist George Soros, a follower of Karl Popper, has argued that sophisticated use of powerful techniques of subtle deception borrowed from modern advertising and cognitive science by conservative political operatives such as Frank Luntz and Karl Rove casts doubt on Popper's original conception of open society.

Because the electorate's perception of reality can easily be manipulated, democratic political discourse does not necessarily lead to a better understanding of reality.

Soros argues that besides the requirements for the separation of powers, free speech, and free elections, we also need to make explicit a strong commitment to the pursuit of truth.

"Politicians will respect, rather than manipulate, reality only if the public cares about the truth and punishes politicians when it catches them in deliberate deception."

Popper however did not identify the open society either with democracy or with capitalism or a laissez-faire economy, but rather with a critical frame of mind on the part of the individual, in the face of communal group think of whatever kind.

An important aspect in Popper's thinking is the notion that the truth can be lost.

Critical attitude does not mean that the truth is found. 


Henri Bergson ([1932] 1937). Les Deux Sources de la morale et de la religion, ch. I, pp. 1-103, & ch. IV, pp. 287–343. Félix Alcan.

Translated as ([1935] 1977), The Two Sources of Morality and Religion (with left or right arrow buttons of this link to locate succeeding pages), pp. 18-27, 45-65, 229-34., trs., R. A. Audra and C. Brereton, with the assistance of W. H. Carter. [Macmillan] Notre Dame.

Henri Bergson, The Two Sources of Morality and Religion, pp. 20-21. 1935, Macmillan.

K. R. Popper, The Open Society and its Enemies (1945), v 1:1 and 174–75.

Soros, George, "The Age of Fallibility," Public Affairs (2006).

Soros, George, Soros on Soros (John Wiley and Sons, 1995), page 33.

Soros, George, "From Karl Popper to Karl Rove - and Back", Project Syndicate (November 8, 2007).

Liberalism as threat to the open society: Charles Arthur Willard. Liberalism and the Problem of Knowledge: A New Rhetoric for Modern Democracy.

Conclusion. When one looks at the complexity of this section. It is difficult to see how any one man has been able to create such influence purporting to be as confirmed in Answer 1...

..."Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations and private individuals."

"They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression."

Leaving one to question now nearly 2018 - where is the evidence these processes have ever worked as herein described; as it appears there are more countries in debt so serious the interest alone will never be repaid and illness, despite the Scientific Evidence base dedicated Doctors all work from, is sweeping the globe like an unstoppable tsunami.

Leaving one to consider - if the current population shift become more than it is currently the Earth may well shift on its axis. 


Open Society 2.

Section. 70.


Open Society Foundations.

Open Society Foundations = Open Society Institute.

Founded:      April 1993; 24 years ago..

Founder:       George Soros.

Location: New York City, New York, U.S.

Key People.

George Soros, Chairman.

Christopher Stone, President.

Jonathan Soros, Global Advisory Board Member.

Endowment $19,590,570,302.


Open Society Foundations (OSF), formerly the Open Society Institute, is an international grant making network founded by business magnate George Soros.

Open Society Foundations financially support civil society groups around the world, with a stated aim of advancing justice, education, public health and independent media.

The OSF has branches in 37 countries, encompassing a group of country and regional foundations, such as the Open Society Initiative for West Africa and the Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa; its headquarters are in New York, New York.

Since its founding in 1993, OSF has reported expenditures of over $11 billion.

The group's name is inspired by Karl Popper's 1945 book The Open Society and Its Enemies.


On May 28, 1984, Soros signed a contract between the Soros Foundation (New York) and the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, the founding document of the Soros Foundation Budapest.

This was followed by several foundations in the region to help countries move away from communism.

In 1991 the foundation merged with the Foundation pour une Entraide Intellectuelle Européenne, an affiliate of the Congress for Cultural Freedom, created in 1966 to imbue 'non-conformist' Eastern European scientists with anti-totalitarian and capitalist ideas.

Open Society Institute was created in the United States in 1993 to support the Soros foundations in Central and Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.

In August 2010, it started using the name of Open Society Foundations (OSF) to better reflect its role as a funder for civil society groups around the world.

Soros believes there can be no absolute answers to political questions because the same principle of reflexivity applies as in financial markets.

In 2012, Christopher Stone joined the OSF as the second president.

He replaced Aryeh Neier, who served as president from 1993 to 2012.

Stone announced in September 2017 that he was stepping down as president.

In 2016, the OSF was reportedly the target of a cyber security breach.

Documents and information reportedly belonging to the OSF were published by a Web site.

The cyber security breach has been described as sharing similarities with Russian-linked cyber attacks that targeted other institutions, such as the Democratic National Committee.

In 2017, Soros transferred $18 billion to the Foundation.


George Soros at the 47th Munich Security Conference in 2011. 

The Open Society Foundations reported annual expenditures of $827 million in 2014.[17] Its $873 million budget in 2013, ranked as the second largest private philanthropy budget in the United States, after the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation budget of $3.9 billion.

According to the foundations' website, 1993-2014 expenditures included:

$2.9 billion to defend human rights, especially the rights of women; ethnic, racial and religious minorities; drug users; sex workers and LGBTQ communities;

$2.1 billion for education.

$1.6 billion on developing democracy in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.

$1.5 billion in the United States to promote reform in criminal justice, drug policy, palliative care, education, immigration, equal rights and democratic governance.

$737 million for public health issues such as HIV and AIDS, TB, palliative care, harm reduction and patients' rights.

$214 million to advance the rights of Roma communities in Europe. 

Expenditures in 2014 included.

$277.3 million - Rights and Justice.

$238.0 million - Governance and Accountability.

$116.0 million - Administration.

$91.7 million - Education and Youth.

$60.0 million - Health.

$43.8 million - Media and Information. 

Within these totals, OSF reported granting at least $33 million to civil rights and social justice organizations in the United States.

This funding included groups such as the Organization for Black Struggle and Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment that supported protests in the wake of the shooting of Trayvon Martin, the death of Eric Garner, the shooting of Tamir Rice and the shooting of Michael Brown.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the OSF spends much of its resources on democratic causes around the world and has also contributed to groups such as the Tides Foundation.

OSF has been a major financial supporter of U.S. immigration reform, including a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

OSF projects have included the National Security and Human Rights Campaign and the Lindesmith Center, which conducted research on drug reform.

The Library of Congress Soros Foundation Visiting Fellows Program was initiated in 1990.

Conclusion. There can only be one conclusion one can make or question to ask. "Where in reality does all of this money come from." 770 billion and 1777.8 Millions - surely there is sufficient funds here to erase all poverty for all time; however I see no evidence of this ever having happened. 

Moreover if George Soros started Open Society in 1993 was he working on his own initiative or was he no more than one of the Order Followers simply following Orders no matter what the legal or Moral out come will be.


Open Society 3.

Section. 71.


In 2007, Nicolas Guilhot - a senior research associate of CNRS, wrote in Critical Sociology that the Open Society Foundations serve to perpetuate institutions which reinforce the existing social order, as the Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation have done before them.

Guilhot argues that control over the social sciences by financial interests has depoliticized this field and reinforced a capitalist view of modernization.

An OSF effort in 2008 in the African Great Lakes region aimed at spreading human rights awareness among prostitutes in Uganda and other nations in the area was not received well by the Ugandan authorities, who considered it an effort to legalize and legitimize prostitution.

Open Society Foundation has been criticized in pro-Israel editorials, Tablet Magazine, Arutz Sheva and Jewish Press, for including funding for the activist groups Adalah and I'lam, which they say are anti-Israel and support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.

Among the documents released by DCleaks, an OSF report reads...

"For a variety of reasons, we wanted to construct a diversified portfolio of grants dealing with Israel and Palestine, funding both Israeli Jewish and PCI - Palestinian Citizens of Israel groups as well as building a portfolio of Palestinian grants and in all cases to maintain a low profile and relative distance; particularly on the advocacy front."

NGO monitor, an Israeli NGO, produced a report which says, "Soros has been a frequent critic of Israeli government policy and does not consider himself a Zionist, but there is no evidence that he or his family holds any special hostility or opposition to the existence of the state of Israel.

This report will show that their support and that of the Open Society Foundation, has nevertheless gone to organizations with such agendas."

The report says its objective is to inform OSF, claiming: "The evidence demonstrates that Open Society funding contributes significantly to anti-Israel campaigns in three important respects:

1. Active; in the 'Durban strategy.'

2. Funding aimed at weakening U.S support for Israel by shifting public opinion regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Iran.

3. Funding for Israeli political opposition groups on the fringes of Israeli society, which use the rhetoric of human rights to advocate for marginal political goals."

The report concludes...

"Yet, to what degree Soros, his family and the Open Society Foundation are aware of the cumulative impact on Israel and of the political warfare conducted by many of their beneficiaries is an open question."

Several politicians in eastern Europe, including Liviu Dragnea in Romania and typically right-wing figures Szilard Nemeth in Hungary, FYROM’s Nikola Gruevski, who called for a "de-Sorosization" of society and Poland’s Jaroslaw Kaczynski, who has said that Soros-funded groups want; "societies without identity," regard many of the NGO groups to be irritants at best and threats at worst.

Some of those Soros-funded advocacy groups in the region say the renewed attacks are harassment and intimidation, which became more open after the election of Donald Trump in the United States.

Stefania Kapronczay of the Hungarian Civil Liberties Union, which receives half of its funding from Soros-backed foundations, claims that Hungarian officials are; "testing the waters," in an effort to see "what they can get away with."

Question. 1...

As comprehensive as this document is are you able to make an overall conclusion as to what it means to the world and its Peoples?

Especially the Open Society as this appears to be drawing to some form of conclusion although I am unable to see what that is?

Answer. 1...

On the face of it one could be forgiven for thinking this started in 1993, in 1960 or even earlier - mid to late 1939 to mid 1940s and one would not be wrong.

However does the evidence truly support this - or is one minded to look much further back in history; to such early times as the history books did not record or some religion or territorial seeking country ruler in seeking to dominate-destroyed the available records; thereby making history say as they decided.

If we are able to accept this understanding, should we not once again ask. "Why."

Or is the answer written and hidden in plain sight and is an on going process that on the face of it was for the time extremely clever and in a manner of speaking still is - however. I do have to wonder; if the modern Order Followers that are the backbone of Open Society really know what their orders are and what will be the outcome of following such orders. 

Furthermore I have always thought it was Israel and the Vatican through the many secret societies seeking to dominate the world as demonstrated by this written in the sky by a supposedly Chemtrail Airplane a pentagram.

Is it possible this is a satanic sign to those able to read the secret sign - of the start of the next campaign or completion of a phase of world domination.

The Pentagram has 2 meanings - in its upright position it represents the five elements of earth, wind, fire, water & spirit - quintessence/fifth element; with spirit represented by the top point on the star above the material realm - mind over matter.

The Satanists invert the pentagram, placing spirit/morality at the base and the 2 horns of the baphomet/duality placed at the top in defiance of our true nature.

It needs to be perfect, no broken or uneven lines. So even upright, it may have secret implications.

                                   Chemtrails in the Sky.       The 'broken pentagram' is also a satanic symbol.

 The broken pentagram is used in the street layout of Washington D.C....

Even the United Kingdom and London are not it appears free of the tentacles of secrecy... 

Although it is not well known that the separate State of The City of London is referred to as Babylon? Baby-London.

The Central Masonic centre of London is therefore in Babylon.

From historical records it appear some five times the Central Lodge was rebuilt it after being destroyed.

There are People that have sought to understand what Babylon 5 is about, allegorically speaking. An instrument that Writers or speakers typically use as literary devices or as rhetorical devices that convey (semi-)hidden meanings through symbolic figures, actions, imagery, or events, which together create the moral, spiritual, or political meaning the author wishes to convey.

Evidence appears to be emerging the Masonic Centre of Eurasia one of many places of Sacrifice, Murder and Sexual abuse. 

As the first new capital of the 21st century, the city of Astana in Kazakhstan has been received by many as a revolution in social architecture.

A country plied with Money from rich elite groups and People who want to build a unique place that lies on top of esoteric foundations. 

The city and country is littered with masonic structures and buildings and all you have to do is look into the sacrificial history that has surrounded the area and been continuously hidden and is now being uncovered. 

Finely we can consider is all of these Ancient Protocols seemingly in the best interest of Mankind all hidden in plain sight really as suggested of should we be asking more searching questions...

The TRUTH about Western Europe and the EU from before the UK joined.

The British public and the Peoples of the European Countries have systematically had the truth about the objectives of the EU/EEC/Common Market hidden from them; or 'played down,' ever since its inception. 

This webpage highlights what was possibly known by the British Government and others within the now aged protocol - in 1970 prior to them willingly acceding the UK to the 'Community' and the known loss of sovereignty that they deliberately sought to hide from the public as they would give away our national independence, piece by piece.

The documents were released in 2001 after the 30 year confidentiality rule but have remained relatively unknown and unpublicized since they were released. 

Everything on the documents has already happened at European level and for the few areas where the United Kingdom currently has an opt-out it is expected that we will eventually have to opt-in.

Each and every stage of the United Kingdom's membership of the EU will eventually be released from confidential archives and the British public will get to see every moment in the history of this European project - when they were told; one thing while our Government did or meant another. 

Surely the only conclusion one is able to make from all of this information is...

Lost tribes seeking relief of their Anxiety through restitution of their lost lands, using the Barbaric act of Circumcision and other so called religious instruments; that in turn created an Anxiety of such enormity, nothing will relieve it, other than in their Minds. World Domination - then someone will understand.

Sad part is Anxiety of this magnitude cannot be relieved by such actions and in failing to see this as a possibility will only mean as current events are clearly demonstrating...

Occupation of Others People lands never has in the long-term proved successful; thus the overcoming the world by stealth cannot in the long-term mean anything else other than to turn on whosoever is at the helm at the time, or as the Lost tribes of Israel tried to do when they sacrificed through devious Order Followers instruments. Their People during the holocaust.

And finely leaving no option but to turn on themselves.  

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Peter Smith Talking Cures.                      

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